Zaheer Abbas vs Ricky Ponting ODIs

[Kirkut]

I'm actually surprised that Zaheer Abbas got 7 votes.

Ponting was a total gun in ODIs in the 2000s, he had Dravid's reliability and could switch to Gilchrist/Jaysuriya mode by tonking sixes.

 

[Kirkut]

I have never seen a better innings in ODI cricket than what Ponting did in that 2003 WC final

Yep, unreal hitting given the time when ODI 100s had a strike rate of 75 on average.

 

[Coronis]

I'm actually surprised that Zaheer Abbas got 7 votes.

Ponting was a total gun in ODIs in the 2000s, he had Dravid's reliability and could switch to Gilchrist/Jaysuriya mode by tonking sixes.

Yep, unreal hitting given the time when ODI 100s had a strike rate of 75 on average.

lol

You do realise Abbas averaged higher and scored faster than Ponting in an era that was slower scoring and lower averaging by nature?

And where are you pulling these stats out of? The average SR for an ODI ton has always been 90+ and was almost 100 in Ponting’s time.

 

[ankitj]

Look at the SRs of Abbas' top knocks. It's crazy.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Tier 1 - Abbas, Sachin, Viv and AB
A league above the rest. ( if we dont consider longevity )

 

[DrWolverine]

Top 10 batting SR ratios (Buttler has gone from #2 to #4. Rest is unchanged):

GJ Maxwell
IVA Richards
V Sehwag
JC Buttler
Zaheer Abbas
AC Gilchrist
A Symonds
AB de Villiers
ST Jayasuriya
L Klusener

How does this work?
I am surprised Kapil is not in the list.
Did he miss any cutoff?

 

[DrWolverine]

Top 10 bowling ER ratios (Bumrah is #14 so misses the cut):

J Garner
Rashid Khan
SM Pollock
CEL Ambrose
RJ Hadlee
Mohammad Nabi
MA Holding
Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Hafeez
M Muralidaran

I don’t include them since they mostly against associate nations.

 

[ankitj]

How does this work?
I am surprised Kapil is not in the list.
Did he miss any cutoff?

Kapil didn't make the cut because his average is under 30.

 

[ankitj]

I don’t include them since they mostly against associate nations.

I considered only games against test playing teams but even then Rashid plays a lot against weaker teams I suppose. Not a perfect system of course.

 

[Coronis]

I considered only games against test playing teams but even then Rashid plays a lot against weaker teams I suppose. Not a perfect system of course.

Rashid still HIM

 

[ankitj]

I'm actually surprised that Zaheer Abbas got 7 votes.

Ponting was a total gun in ODIs in the 2000s, he had Dravid's reliability and could switch to Gilchrist/Jaysuriya mode by tonking sixes.

BTW Ponting's SR in 2000s is still marginally less than Zaheer Abbas' career SR.

It's fine by me if you vote for Ponting. The point of these threads should be to find out new facts about cricketers and not so much who wins the poll

 

[sayon basak]

I considered only games against test playing teams but even then Rashid plays a lot against weaker teams I suppose. Not a perfect system of course.

Just look at how good Rashid is.

Cricket Ultimate Target Practice

Professional Red Bull cricketer Rashid Khan attempts to bowl through four targets in a wall

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[ankitj]

Just look at how good Rashid is.

Cricket Ultimate Target Practice

Professional Red Bull cricketer Rashid Khan attempts to bowl through four targets in a wall

youtube.com

I don't begrudge Rashid being rated highly but he was #1 ODI bowler in my system which made me doubt my own system

 

[sayon basak]

I don't begrudge Rashid being rated highly but he was #1 ODI bowler in my system which made me doubt my own system

He that good.

 

[Coronis]

I don't begrudge Rashid being rated highly but he was #1 ODI bowler in my system which made me doubt my own system

Maybe you should doubt your own perception of reality first. Trust the system.

 

[DrWolverine]

Rashid Khan
vs SENA + IPS : 30 matches. 41 wkts. ER of 4.91
Add WI : 39 matches. 56 wkts. ER of 4.66
Add Ban : 55 matches. 80 wkts. ER of 4.44

 

[DrWolverine]

I know IPL isn’t international cricket.
Rashid Khan has the second best economy rate among bowlers with 100+ wickets there.

 

[sayon basak]

Rashid Khan
vs SENA + IPS : 30 matches. 41 wkts. ER of 4.91

That is still really good.

And IPL is as important (or unimportant) as T20Is.

 

[ankitj]

No wonder then Rashid was #1 T20 player of all time in espn cricinfo ranking.

A collection of The Greatest T20 Players articles from all Cricket Monthly magazine issues.

A collection of The Greatest T20 Players articles from all Cricket Monthly magazine issues.

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[Coronis]

That is still really good.

And IPL is as important (or unimportant) as T20Is.

Its definitely more important. Nobody gives a **** about T20Is. iirc the only reason we ever gave a **** was the WC because it gave us an opportunity to have all 3 titles at once?