Zaheer Abbas , Jacques Kallis and Lisa Sthalekar join ICC hall of fame

[TheJediBrah]

How can you induct 10 into the hall of fame at once when you're only allowed 6 on your team fighting the elite 4?

 

[ankitj]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ms-dhoni-matthew-hayden-daniel-vettori-hashim-amla-graeme-smith-sarah-taylor-sana-mir-inducted-into-icc-hall-of-fame-1489553

Dhoni

 

[Coronis]

How can you induct 10 into the hall of fame at once when you're only allowed 6 on your team fighting the elite 4?

Underrated post

 

[peterhrt]

Wisden Leading Cricketer In The World for each calendar year 1900-2024. Only performances in that calendar year count. All formats taken into consideration including domestic cricket. 1900-2002 years were chosen retrospectively by a 16-man panel in 2007.

1900 Ranjitsinhji, 1901 Fry, 1902 Trumper, 1903 Fry (2), 1904 Bosanquet, 1905 Jackson, 1906 Hirst, 1907 Vogler, 1908 Noble, 1909 Rhodes
1910 Faulkner, 1911 Trumper (2), 1912-13 Barnes (2), 1914 Hobbs, 1919 Jack Gregory
1920 Collins, 1921 Macartney, 1922 Hobbs (2), 1923 Hendren, 1924 Tate, 1925 Hobbs (3), 1926 Macartney (2), 1927 Ponsford, 1928 Freeman,
1929 Hammond
1930-32 Bradman (3), 1933 Larwood, 1934 Bradman (4), 1935 McCabe, 1936-39 Bradman (8)
1946 Bradman (9), 1947 Compton, 1948 Bradman (10), 1949 Hutton
1950 Worrell, 1951 Miller, 1952 Hutton (2), 1953 Bedser, 1954 Walcott, 1955 Tyson, 1956 Laker, 1957 May, 1958 Sobers, 1959 Benaud
1960 Sobers (2), 1961 Davidson, 1962 Sobers (3), 1963 Trueman, 1964-66 Sobers (6), 1967 Graeme Pollock, 1968 Sobers (7), 1969 Graeme Pollock (2)
1970 Sobers (8), 1971 Procter, 1972 Lillee, 1973 Barry Richards, 1974 Thomson, 1975 Lloyd, 1976 Viv Richards, 1977 Lillee (2), 1978 Viv Richards (2),
1979 Greg Chappell
1980 Viv Richards (3), 1981 Botham, 1982 Imran Khan, 1983 Kapil Dev, 1984 Garner, 1985 Hadlee, 1986, Marshall, 1987 Crowe, 1988 Marshall (2),
1989 Border
1990 Gooch, 1991 Ambrose, 1992 Wasim Akram, 1993 Warne, 1994-95 Lara (2), 1996 Jayasuriya, 1997 Warne (2), 1998 Tendulkar, 1999 Steve Waugh
2000 Muralitharan, 2001 McGrath, 2002 Hayden, 2003 Ponting, 2004 Warne (3), 2005 Flintoff, 2006 Muralitharan (2), 2007 Kallis, 2008-09 Sehwag (2)
2010 Tendulkar (2), 2011 Sangakkara, 2012 Michael Clarke, 2013 Steyn, 2014 Sangakkara (2), 2015 Williamson, 2016-18 Kohli (3), 2019 Stokes
2020 Stokes (2), 2021 Root, 2022 Stokes (3), 2023 Cummins, 2024 Bumrah

Winners by country: Australia 36, England 32, West Indies 20, India 9, South Africa 8, Sri Lanka 5, New Zealand 3, Pakistan 2

 

[Ali TT]

Bradman
Sobers




The rest

 

[Coronis]

Kohli (3)
Williamson (1)
Root (1)
Smith (0)

Tragic

 

[honestbharani]

Mods, should we rename the thread to ICC Hall of Fame Discussion?


@Red_Ink_Squid @Prince EWS @Spark

 

[ataraxia]

Wisden Leading Cricketer In The World for each calendar year 1900-2024. Only performances in that calendar year count. All formats taken into consideration including domestic cricket. 1900-2002 years were chosen retrospectively by a 16-man panel in 2007.

1900 Ranjitsinhji, 1901 Fry, 1902 Trumper, 1903 Fry (2), 1904 Bosanquet, 1905 Jackson, 1906 Hirst, 1907 Vogler, 1908 Noble, 1909 Rhodes
1910 Faulkner, 1911 Trumper (2), 1912-13 Barnes (2), 1914 Hobbs, 1919 Jack Gregory
1920 Collins, 1921 Macartney, 1922 Hobbs (2), 1923 Hendren, 1924 Tate, 1925 Hobbs (3), 1926 Macartney (2), 1927 Ponsford, 1928 Freeman,
1929 Hammond
1930-32 Bradman (3), 1933 Larwood, 1934 Bradman (4), 1935 McCabe, 1936-39 Bradman (8)
1946 Bradman (9), 1947 Compton, 1948 Bradman (10), 1949 Hutton
1950 Worrell, 1951 Miller, 1952 Hutton (2), 1953 Bedser, 1954 Walcott, 1955 Tyson, 1956 Laker, 1957 May, 1958 Sobers, 1959 Benaud
1960 Sobers (2), 1961 Davidson, 1962 Sobers (3), 1963 Trueman, 1964-66 Sobers (6), 1967 Graeme Pollock, 1968 Sobers (7), 1969 Graeme Pollock (2)
1970 Sobers (8), 1971 Procter, 1972 Lillee, 1973 Barry Richards, 1974 Thomson, 1975 Lloyd, 1976 Viv Richards, 1977 Lillee (2), 1978 Viv Richards (2),
1979 Greg Chappell
1980 Viv Richards (3), 1981 Botham, 1982 Imran Khan, 1983 Kapil Dev, 1984 Garner, 1985 Hadlee, 1986, Marshall, 1987 Crowe, 1988 Marshall (2),
1989 Border
1990 Gooch, 1991 Ambrose, 1992 Wasim Akram, 1993 Warne, 1994-95 Lara (2), 1996 Jayasuriya, 1997 Warne (2), 1998 Tendulkar, 1999 Steve Waugh
2000 Muralitharan, 2001 McGrath, 2002 Hayden, 2003 Ponting, 2004 Warne (3), 2005 Flintoff, 2006 Muralitharan (2), 2007 Kallis, 2008-09 Sehwag (2)
2010 Tendulkar (2), 2011 Sangakkara, 2012 Michael Clarke, 2013 Steyn, 2014 Sangakkara (2), 2015 Williamson, 2016-18 Kohli (3), 2019 Stokes
2020 Stokes (2), 2021 Root, 2022 Stokes (3), 2023 Cummins, 2024 Bumrah

Winners by country: Australia 36, England 32, West Indies 20, India 9, South Africa 8, Sri Lanka 5, New Zealand 3, Pakistan 2

I know this is a Wisden thing but it's a little mad that Ben Stokes has got this thrice and Steve Smith not at all, no?

 

[peterhrt]

I know this is a Wisden thing but it's a little mad that Ben Stokes has got this thrice and Steve Smith not at all, no?

Smith headed the ICC Test Batting rankings at year-end for three years in a row 2015-17. But Wisden's award covers all formats and has historically rewarded World Cup winners (Lloyd, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, Jayasuriya, Steve Waugh, Ponting, Stokes, Cummins). Smith was banned in 2018 but would also have been a candidate in 2019 despite the ban extending three months into that year.

Wisden's rationale at the time:

2015. "The choice of Williamson in an era of highly gifted young batsmen reflects the measured brilliance he brings to every format of the game," said Wisden editor Lawrence Booth, who selected the winners.

"Others hit the ball harder (David Warner) or in more places (A. B. de Villiers) or even in stranger places (Steve Smith); others shone in marquee series (Joe Root) or bloody-mindedly proved points (Alastair Cook and Younis Khan). But Williamson floated serenely along, an advert for elegant understatement in a New Zealand team who could hardly believe their luck."

"His total across all international formats of 2692 runs is the third highest aggregate score, behind only Kumar Sangakkara (2868 in 2014) and Ricky Ponting (2833 in 2005)."

2016. "In all three genres, Kohli averaged more than anyone: 75 in Tests, 92 in one-dayers and a phenomenal 106 in Twenty20 internationals. His 51-ball unbeaten 82 at Mohali to send Australia home from the World T20 in March was one of the limited-overs performances of the year, typifying his Mastery of the chase. In 13 Twenty20 innings for India, he was undefeated seven times, and scored seven half-centuries. And by the end of 2016, his career average in all three formats was over 50."

2017. "In a year India topped the Test and 50-over rankings, Virat Kohli was the most prominent player across the formats - and seventh in the Forbes list of sporting brands, ahead even of Barcelona's Lionel Messi. Contemporary cricketers have averages, strike-rates and brand value, and Kohli was doing rather well in all three.

In Tests, his 1,059 runs came at 75; among those with 1,000, only Steve Smith had a better average (by one). Three of his five centuries were doubles; the other two were unbeaten. In one-day internationals, he scored most runs (1,460), and had the best average (76) of anyone who played more than ten innings; his strike-rate was nearly 100. In 46 internationals overall, he totalled 2,818 - more than 700 clear of the next best, Joe Root, and more than 1,000 ahead of Smith. It all contributed to India winning seven of their 11 Tests, 21 of 28 completed ODIs, and nine of 13 Twenty20s. And Kohli became Wisden's Leading International Cricketer for the second year in a row, emulating Virender Sehwag in 2008 and 2009."

2019. "While cricket is a game of numbers, his impact went well beyond his batting stats - though they were impressive. Across the calendar year, he hit 821 Test runs at 45, including an Ashes hundred at Lord's, and 719 in one-day internationals, at almost 60.

Rivals dwarfed his 50-over tally, and scored at a faster lick: Stokes's one-day strike-rate of 92 was the lowest of England's established top six. But those two landmark innings… 84 and 135, both unbeaten, the first propelling his country to a maiden World Cup, the second inspiring a national record Test chase of 359. They alone were feats worthy of breaking Virat Kohli's three-year monopoly as Wisden's Leading Cricketer in the World; in the award's 17 years, only one other Englishman - Andrew Flintoff in 2005 - has prevailed."

 

[Coronis]

Smith headed the ICC Test Batting rankings at year-end for three years in a row 2015-17. But Wisden's award covers all formats and has historically rewarded World Cup winners (Lloyd, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, Jayasuriya, Steve Waugh, Ponting, Stokes, Cummins). Smith was banned in 2018 but would also have been a candidate in 2019.

Wisden's rationale at the time:

2015. "The choice of Williamson in an era of highly gifted young batsmen reflects the measured brilliance he brings to every format of the game," said Wisden editor Lawrence Booth, who selected the winners.

"Others hit the ball harder (David Warner) or in more places (A. B. de Villiers) or even in stranger places (Steve Smith); others shone in marquee series (Joe Root) or bloody-mindedly proved points (Alastair Cook and Younis Khan). But Williamson floated serenely along, an advert for elegant understatement in a New Zealand team who could hardly believe their luck."

"His total across all international formats of 2692 runs is the third highest aggregate score, behind only Kumar Sangakkara (2868 in 2014) and Ricky Ponting (2833 in 2005)."

2016. "In all three genres, Kohli averaged more than anyone: 75 in Tests, 92 in one-dayers and a phenomenal 106 in Twenty20 internationals. His 51-ball unbeaten 82 at Mohali to send Australia home from the World T20 in March was one of the limited-overs performances of the year, typifying his Mastery of the chase. In 13 Twenty20 innings for India, he was undefeated seven times, and scored seven half-centuries. And by the end of 2016, his career average in all three formats was over 50."

2017. "In a year India topped the Test and 50-over rankings, Virat Kohli was the most prominent player across the formats - and seventh in the Forbes list of sporting brands, ahead even of Barcelona's Lionel Messi. Contemporary cricketers have averages, strike-rates and brand value, and Kohli was doing rather well in all three.

In Tests, his 1,059 runs came at 75; among those with 1,000, only Steve Smith had a better average (by one). Three of his five centuries were doubles; the other two were unbeaten. In one-day internationals, he scored most runs (1,460), and had the best average (76) of anyone who played more than ten innings; his strike-rate was nearly 100. In 46 internationals overall, he totalled 2,818 - more than 700 clear of the next best, Joe Root, and more than 1,000 ahead of Smith. It all contributed to India winning seven of their 11 Tests, 21 of 28 completed ODIs, and nine of 13 Twenty20s. And Kohli became Wisden's Leading International Cricketer for the second year in a row, emulating Virender Sehwag in 2008 and 2009."

2019. "While cricket is a game of numbers, his impact went well beyond his batting stats - though they were impressive. Across the calendar year, he hit 821 Test runs at 45, including an Ashes hundred at Lord's, and 719 in one-day internationals, at almost 60.

Rivals dwarfed his 50-over tally, and scored at a faster lick: Stokes's one-day strike-rate of 92 was the lowest of England's established top six. But those two landmark innings… 84 and 135, both unbeaten, the first propelling his country to a maiden World Cup, the second inspiring a national record Test chase of 359. They alone were feats worthy of breaking Virat Kohli's three-year monopoly as Wisden's Leading Cricketer in the World; in the award's 17 years, only one other Englishman - Andrew Flintoff in 2005 - has prevailed."

Meh the 135 and Smith doesn’t even get a mention for his slew of innings that Ashes.

 

[Ali TT]

Meh the 135 and Smith doesn’t even get a mention for his slew of innings that Ashes.

Didn't win an Ashes or a world cup though. .

Always an issue with annual awards that consistent performers consistently lose out to those who have an in-year purple patch.

 

[peterhrt]

Given that the Almanack ran uninterrupted from 1864 the Wisden panel might have chosen someone from every year. An attempt, no doubt flawed, to anticipate how they might have decided their Leading Cricketer In The World from the first edition of the Almanack in 1864. Calendar years covered 1863-1899. Gentlemen v Players at Lord's was a key fixture throughout the period and County Cricket was keenly contested. International matches took time to generate the same interest but were well established by the end of the century.

1863 John Jackson, 1864 George Tarrant, 1865 Thomas Humphrey, 1866 WG Grace, 1867 George Wootton, 1868-69 WG Grace (3)
1870-77 WG Grace (11), 1878 Spofforth, 1879 Alfred Shaw
1880 Alfred Shaw (2), 1881 AG Steel, 1882 Spofforth (2), 1883 Peate, 1884 Spofforth (3), 1885-87 Shrewsbury (3), 1888 CTB Turner, 1889 Lohmann
1890-91 Lohmann (3), 1892-93 Shrewsbury (5), 1894-95 Richardson (2), 1896 Ranjitsinhji, 1897 Richardson (3), 1898 Joe Darling,
1899 Ranjitsinhji (2)

The Wisden panel picked Ranji in 1900 which would have given him a third title.

Then there are the war years. Cricket was restricted but there were still first-class matches every year.

1915 Bert Ironmonger, 1916-18 Frank Tarrant (3)

Ironmonger took 31 wickets in four matches for Victoria. Tarrant dominated in India, particularly with the ball.

1940 Grimmett, 1941 O'Reilly, 1942 Derek Sealy, 1943 Hazare, 1944 Merchant, 1945 Miller

Bradman's stats by calendar year were 595 runs @ 59.50 in 1940, 12 @ 6.00 in 1941, and 232 @ 116.00 in 1945. He didn't play during the other three years. Miller was named by the panel in 1951, which could have been his second nomination.

 

[Ali TT]

So basically Grace had peaked years before the international game began.

 

[peterhrt]

So basically Grace had peaked years before the international game began.

He was at his peak throughout his twenties. When he first played for England in 1880 he was 32. Still a good player but not the dominant one he had been.

 

[Coronis]

So basically Grace had peaked years before the international game began.

Pretty much yeah