Your Retrospect Rest of World ODI Squad

[aussie]

Nice Squad and good explainations....

word, even though i dont agree with his squad the cant his analysis where well put...

 

[aussie]

No, Lara's recent ODI form is not impressive.

well his record vs Australia in ODI's is good thats why he was selected in the World XI

 

[aussie]

Afridi better than Razzaq...?
Afridi is one of the worst batsmen you could wish to see who's played so many ODIs - Razzaq has turned games on their heads several times and played some of the most astonishing ODI innings you could ever wish to see.

all that about Razzaq is true but did i ever say he was better??? i said due to his improved record in ODI this year & plus his close to player of the series performance in the VB series i would pick him still over Razzaq.

 

[Richard]

well his record vs Australia in ODI's is good thats why he was selected in the World XI

It's no good averaging well against Australia in ODIs if you've lost it - as Lara might (or might not) have done.

 

[Richard]

all that about Razzaq is true but did i ever say he was better??? i said due to his improved record in ODI this year & plus his close to player of the series performance in the VB series i would pick him still over Razzaq.

Because of basically 1 series you'd pick him ahead of someone who's been relatively consistent for 5 years?

 

[aussie]

Because of basically 1 series you'd pick him ahead of someone who's been relatively consistent for 5 years?

well current form was a major factor in selecting the World XI..

 

[Richard]

Being out-of-form should be a preclusion from being selected.
Being in-form should categorically not be much of a carrot for selection, especially for someone as rubbish as Afridi had been for most-all of the previous 3 years.
One good series should not count for anything.

 

[tooextracool]

No, it's not.
Trescothick has made lots of 6 and 0 scores against Australia, but he's also scored half-centuries, and has generally done better than most of England's excuses for ODI batsmen.

trescothick had scored 3 half centuries and no centuries during that period in ODIs against australia.
coincidentally he had also scored 3 half centuries and no centuries at a marginally better average against australia in test matches.
if he struggled against australia in tests during that period, he also struggled against them in ODIs.

 

[tooextracool]

all that about Razzaq is true but did i ever say he was better??? i said due to his improved record in ODI this year & plus his close to player of the series performance in the VB series i would pick him still over Razzaq.

how anyone could pick afridi over razzaq i'll never understand. razzaq is a better batsman and bowler than afridi.

 

[jlo33692]

It is disgusting the way pollock and the row think tank used or should i say didnt use shahid afridid absoloutle disgrace he should have bowled 10 overs every match never been the supersub and opened the batting with chris gayle gor all 3 matches. i captain a 3rd grade side and id do a better job than pollock do u believe he was feliding him self at long off for the last few overs of the third game how ridiculous is that for the skipper to be boundray rider. i was at all 3 games and i have this to say. dravid and kallis are designed as players who sould bat at 3 or 4 by having both in th eteam it means one has to bat at 6 or 7 in dravids case. what you need is a specialist for each position in the order not just your best 6 batsman as the top six in one day cricket anyway you have seen bevan at 6 yujraj and paul collingwood they are number 6's or 7's not dravid. anyway my team in rerospect.

1.Afridi
2.Gayle
3.Sangakarra(WK)
4.Fleming(C)
5.Inzamam
6.Pietersen
7.Flintoff
8.Streak
9.Vass
10.Vettori
11.Murali
12.Razzaq(supersub)

id also find a place in the squad for sanath jayasuriya he is an elder statesman and would have been great.

I saw lara in a night club on sunday night at 2 in the morning farout he is a c--ksu---er al he wanted to do was get a f--k all nite wouldnt be nice to us say anthing to us when we approached him all he wanted was p--y so did akhtar only akhtar got somewhere he took this glamour out of the vlub and came back in half an hour with her we know what he fot up 2. lara wasnt so successful sucked in to him and to lara and akhtar we all know what their agenda was on this trip both shouldnt get a place in the test side this week.

How did you know that was all he was after if he wouldnt talk to you?

Second point i think you are being a bit unfair as the ODI had finished hadnt it?
Are you saying the players are not allowed to go and have a night out when not playing after a series?
Or are you a bit shirty because he didnt want a bar of you? Dont know why he would stop his night ,not chase any girls and talk to you when you have the attitude you show here,pretty poor mate that you would not select one of the worlds best batsman in a side next week because he was at a night club a few hours AFTER the last game and didnt want to sit and have a chat and drink with every tom **** and harry,,, haha im glad your not a selector,ps maybe you should keep the gutter talk in the gutter will you please ,the site is better than that. what you think happened and what ppl are doing in there spare time are really none of our concern.

 

[honestbharani]

I'd pretty much agree with that...only bringing in Dravid for Chanderpaul - he does everything Chanderpaul does but better.

His fielding is really not as good as Chanderpaul's and he still finds the fielders at the start of his innings.

 

[wahindiawah]

It is disgusting the way pollock and the row think tank used or should i say didnt use shahid afridid absoloutle disgrace he should have bowled 10 overs every match never been the supersub and opened the batting with chris gayle gor all 3 matches. .

I completely agree with you on this. Some might argue that Afridi should have not been selected for ROW squad, but after he got selected he should have been treated with respect.Playing afridi as a specislist batsman and then sending him at number eight and number ten position to bat was a "sick joke".

Afridi should have been asked to open the innings and he should have been asked to bowl too (he has improved alot as a bowler lately).Pollocks captaincy was really poor in the OD's, hopefully Smith will do a better job in the test match.

 

[wahindiawah]

how anyone could pick afridi over razzaq i'll never understand. razzaq is a better batsman and bowler than afridi.

Better batsman...Yes.

Better bowler...... NO!

 

[Jono]

how anyone could pick afridi over razzaq i'll never understand. razzaq is a better batsman and bowler than afridi.

Razzaq is NOT a better bowler than Afridi. Where did you pull that rubbish from? Razzaq in the past 2 years has become a God awful bowler. He just puts it down there now-a-days asking for it to be belted.

Overall Razzaq is a better player, and IMO should have been a super-sub but he is not a better bowler, Afridi is much more useful in the ODI game when it comes to bowling.

 

[aussie]

Razzaq is NOT a better bowler than Afridi. Where did you pull that rubbish from? Razzaq in the past 2 years has become a God awful bowler. He just puts it down there now-a-days asking for it to be belted.

nah razzay this year has bowled pretty well in both forms of the game, he bowled well in the latter stages of the VB series when Akhtar went home, he bowled pretty well in the tests & ODI in India & the caribbean so this year at least his bowling has improved.

 

[Jono]

Yeah he bowled well in the VB Series Finals, particularly the first one, however he has recently developed a problem with no-balls and it seems he has lost some pace to what he originally had. I just don't rate him as a ODI bowler, and in the past 2 years (12 October 2003 - Present) he's averaged 40.30 with the ball.

In 2004 he averaged 50 with the ball at an ER of 4.97, and whilst his average has improved in 2005 to 32.69 his ER has risen to 5.28.

By the way, I think these stats include the ACA Africa XI v ACC Asian XI (which is ridiculous if those are official ODIs).

 

[tooextracool]

Yeah he bowled well in the VB Series Finals, particularly the first one, however he has recently developed a problem with no-balls and it seems he has lost some pace to what he originally had. I just don't rate him as a ODI bowler, and in the past 2 years (12 October 2003 - Present) he's averaged 40.30 with the ball.

In 2004 he averaged 50 with the ball at an ER of 4.97, and whilst his average has improved in 2005 to 32.69 his ER has risen to 5.28.

By the way, I think these stats include the ACA Africa XI v ACC Asian XI (which is ridiculous if those are official ODIs).

except he lost pace almost 5 years ago, and his averages now have more to do with form than anything else. hes certainly got better stats overall than afridi.

 

[Maison]

suprising how people are still saying 'kallis'....


yikes.

 

[Richard]

trescothick had scored 3 half centuries and no centuries during that period in ODIs against australia.
coincidentally he had also scored 3 half centuries and no centuries at a marginally better average against australia in test matches.
if he struggled against australia in tests during that period, he also struggled against them in ODIs.

Except that the bar is lower in ODIs than in Tests.
More England batsmen, too, had success in Tests than in ODIs.

 

[silentstriker]

Wait, did someone in this thread just pick Pieterson and Chandrapaul over Dravid?

Meaning, when he had a choice of two out of three, did a sane person just say: "Hmm, I think Dravid is the odd man out here"?

This thread should now be closed, just for that.

Thank you.

My Pick:

1.Trescothick
2.SRT
3.Inzamam
4.Dravid
5.Chandrapaul
6.Pietersen
7.Flintoff
8. Bond
9.Vass
10.Harmison
11.Murali

Dravid can be WK, Inzamam would be Captain.

You'd get six specialist batsman, five specialist bowlers, and one fantastic all rounder.

Now, its hard to duplicate team chemistry...but I think this team would give the Aussies a real run for its money. Vaas tends to be economical and take wickets, and you have some speedy firepower mixed in there. One spinner is enough in ODI's, and it was a pretty easy choice there.

You figure, if your bowling consisted of:

7.Flintoff
8. Bond
9.Vass
10.Harmison
11.Murali

You would expect at least ONE to have a fantastic game. There is just too much talent there.

1.Trescothick
2.SRT
3.Inzamam
4.Dravid
5.Chandrapaul
6.Pietersen
7.Flintoff

And the batting's even better.


And of course, if I had to pick ONE player to start a brand new team with, it would be:

7. Flintoff

The next four or five years should be very entertaining with flintoff!