Why is that still a thing? Champions Trophy

[Fuller Pilch]

What's the best overseas venue for you guys? Always seems like you're watching in the middle of the night! Apart from Aus obviously

West indies for early to mid morning or day games in Asia

 

[RMBolton]

I am pretty sure they ask for bids to host. I dont recall seeing CA or NZC ever bid or even try.

I'm firmly of the view that NZ could host a CT alone. At a stretch, I'm pretty sure NZ could host any ICC event except a men's WC alone. The difficult part is convincing the ICC. We can't give the subcontinent primetime viewing unless we have games on at 3am.

I won't lie, it's kinda frustrating that our boys will never have the theoretical opportunity to play a home Final when all the other "big" teams have at least had that opportunity (even if they never made the Final).

 

[honestbharani]

I'm firmly of the view that NZ could host a CT alone. At a stretch, I'm pretty sure NZ could host any ICC event except a men's WC alone. The difficult part is convincing the ICC. We can't give the subcontinent primetime viewing unless we have games on at 3am.

I won't lie, it's kinda frustrating that our boys will never have the theoretical opportunity to play a home Final when all the other "big" teams have at least had that opportunity (even if they never made the Final).

I think this is where the ICC should at least wake up and when they negotiate the next deals should ensure no such clauses are put up. I think the T20 games in NZ will start around 8 or 9 AM IST which is totally fine AFAIC. And even your d/n ODIs start around 6:30 AM which is ok to wake up and watch. I hope they bid for a solo CT or WT20 hosting rights and win it.

 

[Jan Hfyz]

Am i the only one who thinks that T20 franchise cricket has destroyed the beauty of the ODI cricket? Now a days, people don't watch ODI cricket as they love to watch shorter format more. Why is that so ?

 

[ashley bach]

Am i the only one who thinks that T20 franchise cricket has destroyed the beauty of the ODI cricket? Now a days, people don't watch ODI cricket as they love to watch shorter format more. Why is that so ?

@SteveNZ

 

[SteveNZ]

This guy Jan Hfyz gets it.

Anyone who was there in the 80s to the 00s gets it, and I feel bad for anyone who missed out on that golden era of cricket.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

7 ODIs series…with back-to-back weekend games.

 

[Jan Hfyz]

This guy Jan Hfyz gets it.

Anyone who was there in the 80s to the 00s gets it, and I feel bad for anyone who missed out on that golden era of cricket.

Absolutely! Now this young generation does not know how golden were those days sitting in front of the television watching the legends playing. Now with the advancements everything is going pretty fast.

 

[Molehill]

This guy Jan Hfyz gets it.

Anyone who was there in the 80s to the 00s gets it, and I feel bad for anyone who missed out on that golden era of cricket.

I used to love going to ODI's, best day out at cricket for me. If you go to a Test you run the risk of watching your side getting hammered in the field all day which is not much fun (****ing Amla!!). But at least with ODI's you're guaranteed to see them bat and bowl, a full day's entertainment normally with enough nuance for discussion, but not break neck that you're frightened of missing the odd delivery.

The England team could really do with watching a few old ODI's and learning how to bat out 50 overs again. It's an art that they've lost because they think they're all as good as the 2019 team.

 

[Sunil1z]

It will continue if total viewership numbers are correct ( 1 crore = 10 million ) . This is online viewership on streaming app/website

 

[SteveNZ]

I used to love going to ODI's, best day out at cricket for me. If you go to a Test you run the risk of watching your side getting hammered in the field all day which is not much fun (****ing Amla!!). But at least with ODI's you're guaranteed to see them bat and bowl, a full day's entertainment normally with enough nuance for discussion, but not break neck that you're frightened of missing the odd delivery.

The England team could really do with watching a few old ODI's and learning how to bat out 50 overs again. It's an art that they've lost because they think they're all as good as the 2019 team.

Yep, 50 over cricket is dynamite in that respect. For all the reasons you mentioned, plus the ability to show proper cricketing skills over a longer period. In ODIs, less than a run a ball hundred still has relevance in most games. You can bowl 10 overs up front, trying to nick guys out and bowling a traditional line and length. As opposed to T20 strategies of wack, and don't get wacked.

This generation won't have the pleasure I had of sitting on the Eden Park terraces for a Chappell Hadlee ODI, the chants, the Mexican wave, beers that didn't require a mortgage, and seeing the genuine cricket we got to witness. In fact, they don't even play matches in Auckland apart from the odd T20.

I wonder if streaming services may help the cause for the dreaded marketer's 'eyeballs' on ODIs, given the last post? People may not sit in front of a TV remote but they might stream more readily throughout a day

 

[Sunil1z]

As long as players and spectators recognise the fact that ODI WC is the no.1 Trophy ,ODI will stay .We need Dubai type pitches ( spin /swing/seam ) where 280 is a winning score. All the CT matches in Dubai where nice throwback to 90s era ODI when Teams struggled to score 250 . People don’t want 350 vs 350 too often in ODIs . We have T20 format for that

 

[NZTailender]

I used to love going to ODI's, best day out at cricket for me. If you go to a Test you run the risk of watching your side getting hammered in the field all day which is not much fun (****ing Amla!!). But at least with ODI's you're guaranteed to see them bat and bowl, a full day's entertainment normally with enough nuance for discussion, but not break neck that you're frightened of missing the odd delivery.

The England team could really do with watching a few old ODI's and learning how to bat out 50 overs again. It's an art that they've lost because they think they're all as good as the 2019 team.

Yep, 50 over cricket is dynamite in that respect. For all the reasons you mentioned, plus the ability to show proper cricketing skills over a longer period. In ODIs, less than a run a ball hundred still has relevance in most games. You can bowl 10 overs up front, trying to nick guys out and bowling a traditional line and length. As opposed to T20 strategies of wack, and don't get wacked.

This generation won't have the pleasure I had of sitting on the Eden Park terraces for a Chappell Hadlee ODI, the chants, the Mexican wave, beers that didn't require a mortgage, and seeing the genuine cricket we got to witness. In fact, they don't even play matches in Auckland apart from the odd T20.

I wonder if streaming services may help the cause for the dreaded marketer's 'eyeballs' on ODIs, given the last post? People may not sit in front of a TV remote but they might stream more readily throughout a day

This is funny because I distinctly remember in the mid to late 2000s it felt like we had an absolute saturation of ODI cricket in attempts to make as much money out of it as possible. Apart from the 3 match Chappell Hadlee trophy which was generally good (but then kinda ruined when they tried to make it every year), the tri series format had died and we had things like 7 match ODI series that stopped being interesting around the 3rd or 4th game. JAMODI as a term came about for a reason.

Rose tinted glasses etc.

 

[Molehill]

This is funny because I distinctly remember in the mid to late 2000s it felt like we had an absolute saturation of ODI cricket in attempts to make as much money out of it as possible. Apart from the 3 match Chappell Hadlee trophy which was generally good (but then kinda ruined when they tried to make it every year), the tri series format had died and we had things like 7 match ODI series that stopped being interesting around the 3rd or 4th game. JAMODI as a term came about for a reason.

Rose tinted glasses etc.

I used to love the Tri Nations series. We'd always buy tickets for a group game and then the Final. The Kaif/Yuvraj chase was one of my favourite days at cricket even though England lost (there was a lot going on in the Compton Upper that day as tension threatened to spill over, was more like a football match). You did run the risk of not seeing England in the Final though, but I can at least say I was on the Lord's pitch the last time they allowed spectators on it at the end of the game (it wasn't me that threw the beer can into the Aussie balcony!!).

The 2007 Commonwealth Bank Series was a classic. Fleming dawdling to a ton and costing NZ a place in the Final, then Collingwood finding his inner Bradman!!

 

[Sunil1z]

I think tri series were removed because neutral games were loss making for Host Nation .
Still believe 3 ODI and 3 T20 are the right mix .

 

[CricAddict]

I think tri series were removed because neutral games were loss making for Host Nation .
Still believe 3 ODI and 3 T20 are the right mix .

3 Odi 3 t20 is boring and doesn't stay in anyone's minds.. We still talk about a natwest series or nidahas trophy...but Noone talks about a random bilateral..

 

[Sunil1z]

3 Odi 3 t20 is boring and doesn't stay in anyone's minds.. We still talk about a natwest series or nidahas trophy...but Noone talks about a random bilateral..

People also remember IND-PAK 2004, AUS -SA 2006 and IND-AUS 2013 series

 

[SteveNZ]

This is funny because I distinctly remember in the mid to late 2000s it felt like we had an absolute saturation of ODI cricket in attempts to make as much money out of it as possible. Apart from the 3 match Chappell Hadlee trophy which was generally good (but then kinda ruined when they tried to make it every year), the tri series format had died and we had things like 7 match ODI series that stopped being interesting around the 3rd or 4th game. JAMODI as a term came about for a reason.

Rose tinted glasses etc.

And that's the problem, these myopic administrators who only care about the short-term view of the game, and not where it is in 10 years, 20 years time. They get a golden goose and they want to strip it bare of all the eggs as quickly as possible. Same with T20, oh this makes money, let's do lots of it. Never mind where that leaves us in terms of genuine cricket of actual depth.

So yeah, I remember a time when ODI cricket felt like it was being squeezed thin but that's not on the format, it's on the dickheads who run the game. They think their job is to squeeze every last drop of money out of the game at every given opportunity, no matter where it leaves us. A 7-match ODI series would be a perfect example of that.

When we actually get some proper thinkers at the ICC and in positions of power, we might actually go back to things that worked, like tri-series events. But they'll probably say that a 5-match T20 series makes more cash

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

I used to love the Tri Nations series. We'd always buy tickets for a group game and then the Final. The Kaif/Yuvraj chase was one of my favourite days at cricket even though England lost (there was a lot going on in the Compton Upper that day as tension threatened to spill over, was more like a football match). You did run the risk of not seeing England in the Final though, but I can at least say I was on the Lord's pitch the last time they allowed spectators on it at the end of the game (it wasn't me that threw the beer can into the Aussie balcony!!).

The 2007 Commonwealth Bank Series was a classic. Fleming dawdling to a ton and costing NZ a place in the Final, then Collingwood finding his inner Bradman!!

Apart from the obvious, that CB series was my favourite ever memory of ODI cricket

 

[Burgey]

The question now is why this subbie is still a thing? Archive pls.