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Who won these battles?

subshakerz

subshakerz

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capt_Luffy said:
This is the same debate. You can't take one and not take the other.

Totally. If you use WSC as supplementary, alongside RoW and Quality FC games, then you do exactly the same that I do. I definitely rate them, but they weren't Tests, like some FC games featuring a bowling line-up of Trueman, Appleyard and Tyson weren't.
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FC is quite contextual but like I said I am open, I can't say all FC games are test standard obviously.

And yeah, I am not arguing we make WSC interchangeable with tests.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

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capt_Luffy said:
This is the same debate. You can't take one and not take the other.

Totally. If you use WSC as supplementary, alongside RoW and Quality FC games, then you do exactly the same that I do. I definitely rate them, but they weren't Tests, like some FC games featuring a bowling line-up of Trueman, Appleyard and Tyson weren't.
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And just so we are clear, even Ian Chappell himself argues that WSC stats shouldn't be made part of the test record since they stand better alone.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

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subshakerz said:
And just so we are clear, even Ian Chappell himself argues that WSC stats shouldn't be made part of the test record since they stand better alone.
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Look, my problem with taking this type of statements made by ex-players on interviews and talk shows on face value is simply that they like to hype this things up. WSC was different from anything that came before. In many ways it impacted Cricket. I won't say it changed the game, but the ODI stuff especially was very impactful. So players who played in it are supposed to have a certain bit of nostalgia for it. After so many years, in no ways are they gonna **** on WSC, but remember it fondly. It just wasn't the money they made of it, but the money they made as a result of it.
 
Coronis

Coronis

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subshakerz said:
By the way, all this hand wringing about the quality of WSC is irrelevant since Cricket Australia has already officially recognized those statistics in their own separate category back in 2015.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/3267780

"World Series Cricket was clearly some of the most competitive, high-performing international cricket ever played," said Cricket Australia CEO James Sutherland.

Ian Chappell: "And in the case of World Series Cricket it was the toughest cricket that I’ve ever played."

Viv Richards: "Those Super Tests – 'Chappelli' (Ian Chappell) wouldn't give you an inch, didn't ask for one either I might add, and that was one of his traits. He played it hard, had a beer with you afterwards and he didn't ask for anything and didn't want you to give him anything.

"He played hard cricket, so did Clive Lloyd. So it was very tough cricket."

Yet Luffy would have us believe decades later they are only saying this because they got paid. Lol.
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Australians don’t trust anything Cricket Australia says. You shouldn’t either
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

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Coronis said:
You can (and probably should - though I don’t know your circumstances) get a job before you graduate.
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I do some tuitions, but proper jobs aren't much of an option really. In SC, the job market for anything paying anything decent is tight asf.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
capt_Luffy said:
Look, my problem with taking this type of statements made by ex-players on interviews and talk shows on face value is simply that they like to hype this things up. WSC was different from anything that came before. In many ways it impacted Cricket. I won't say it changed the game, but the ODI stuff especially was very impactful. So players who played in it are supposed to have a certain bit of nostalgia for it. After so many years, in no ways are they gonna **** on WSC, but remember it fondly. It just wasn't the money they made of it, but the money they made as a result of it.
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I would accept that argument if it was just 1 or 2 players, but I have heard most of the players involved echo similar thoughts on its quality.

Anyways, Chappell is not hyping it by saying it shouldn't be part of the test record.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

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subshakerz said:
I would accept that argument if it was just 1 or 2 players, but I have heard most of the players involved echo similar thoughts on its quality.

Anyways, Chappell is not hyping it by saying it shouldn't be part of the test record.
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My comment wasn't on that Chappell comment, but in general. And it applied to pretty much everyone who played there.
 
Coronis

Coronis

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capt_Luffy said:
I do some tuitions, but proper jobs aren't much of an option really. In SC, the job market for anything paying anything decent is tight asf.
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I mean, thats the case pretty much everywhere. Even a side job on minimum wage would be a good idea, who knows how long finding a job after graduation may take. (again don’t know circumstances lol just general thoughts)
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Coronis said:
Australians don’t trust anything Cricket Australia says. You shouldn’t either
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Lol I already had this opinion but it's more to reply this idea that ROW and Super Tests were recognized and therefore more legitimate somehow.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

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Coronis said:
I mean, thats the case pretty much everywhere. Even a side job on minimum wage would be a good idea, who knows how long finding a job after graduation may take. (again don’t know circumstances lol just general thoughts)
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I am in CSE, so in general the idea is I should be able to land a job in the on campus interview (not sure if I can). It's just that the minimum wage you are thinking about and the minimum I can make working part time are severely different. I got a job offer once, would had paid me around 200 bucks for 6 days a week 8 hours night shift. And that was on the high side since I was studying Engineering...... Besides, I really am in dire need to hone my coding, so really don't have any time in hand.
 
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