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[Neil Pickup]

If you think so......at least I don't.

That was a little sarcastic..

 

[chicane]

What are you arguing about chicane? Do you seriously think that Bangladesh cannot win a Test (Test, not a series) in the next 2 years?....and thats just assuming that India win their next away series.

Bangladesh test schedule for next 2 years....

New Zealand v/s Bangladesh - Not likely. Even at home.
Date: October 2004
Host: Bangladesh

Sri Lanka v/s Bangladesh - Murali will run through them. No chance again...
Date: November 2004
Host: Bangladesh

India v/s Bangladesh - No chance.
Date: April 2005
Host: India

England v/s Bangladesh - No chance.
Date: May 2005
Host: England

Australia v/s Bangladesh - No chance.
Date: September 2005
Host: Australia

This ridiculous comparison of Bangladesh and India's chances of victory has to stop.

 

[marc71178]

You wanna talk stats, let us talk this.....Australia never bowled out India in Sydney and yet, you think they were the better team there.....

No, I said it was even and either side could've won it.

They took 9 Indian wickets in that whole match and yet you think they dominated us?

No, I said that India did not dominate the match for reasons above.

I don't what your screwed up theory on cricket is but no matter how screwed up it is, you were wrong

Ah, the insults, wondered how long it would take for them to come.

Perhaps you should read what I put rather than what you want to attack.

We made more runs than the Aussies in that tests and we took more wickets than them and hence we DOMINATED them

Domination doesn't end up 1-1.

And if you cannot understand that, then you should try NOT posting these stuff here and making a complete joke of your cricket knowledge, or the lack there of....

As the pot speaks to the kettle.

 

[marc71178]

So non CW member Englishmen are dumb fools who don't really represent the sentiments of England?

That's not what I said, but hey, twist the words anyway you like...

What I said is why should those of us on here (who never went overboard) be accused of going overboard and not accepting the conditions were the main reason for Anderson's performance (which we as a whole did)

 

[marc71178]

This ridiculous comparison of Bangladesh and India's chances of victory has to stop.

Erm there's still a game in the Windies, and let us not forget that they are improving with every game. 2 years is a long time.

And what's to say India will win their next game outside Asia?

 

[marc71178]

If you think so......at least I don't.

Yet you still thing Nehra wasn't aided?

 

[chicane]

That's not what I said, but hey, twist the words anyway you like...

What I said is why should those of us on here (who never went overboard) be accused of going overboard and not accepting the conditions were the main reason for Anderson's performance (which we as a whole did)

In the same way don't tell me nothing about what some other ignorant fool said dismissing Pakistan.

 

[tooextracool]

No, I said that India did not dominate the match for reasons above.

but they definetly had the upper hand in that match....which team played better in the game?the one that lost 16 wickets or the one that lost 9?
not accounting for injuries india had the better of that series.

Domination doesn't end up 1-1

yet you can be outplayed and still end up with a drawn series.....as the recent series between NZ and SA showed.

 

[chicane]

Yet you still thing Nehra wasn't aided?

Nehra was aided and so was Anderson, but I don't think you will use words such as 'appalling' and 'absolutely woeful' to describe him. It was not just that match, in the day games against NZ, SL and Zim he bowled very well and in the final he bowled better than the rest.

 

[chicane]

Erm there's still a game in the Windies, and let us not forget that they are improving with every game. 2 years is a long time.

Ok but read that iternary again and tell me even in two years if they will match any of those teams to be able to beat them?

And what's to say India will win their next game outside Asia?

Lots more than you have to say for Bangladesh's chances. Our awesome batting - SRT, Dravid, Sehwag, and Laxman. Our improved bowling - Pathan, Balaji, Zaheer, Kumble, Harbhajan, AA. Our recent performances and our team spirit. There's more, like our improved catching and ground fielding, a keeper who is improving both with gloves and bat, and a superb captain.

 

[marc71178]

Nehra was aided and so was Anderson, but I don't think you will use words such as 'appalling' and 'absolutely woeful' to describe him.

Anderson's career average is 23.78 (34.84 in Tests), Nehra's is 33.87 (42.40 in Tests)

Wonder if that's why Anderson isn't described as appalling or absolutely woeful?

 

[marc71178]

Ok but read that iternary again and tell me even in two years if they will match any of those teams to be able to beat them?

The way they've been performing in the last 6 months (and the fact no-one even gave them a hope against the WI - coupled with the praise heaped on them for good cricket by peple who watched the games) suggests to me that it's nowhere near certain that they won't.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

marc, most of your 18000 odd posts are utter drivel

 

[masterblaster]

Now, now ReallyCrazy to win an arguement dont resort to childish ways.

Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.

 

[EnglishRose]

Find one message on this board to substantiate that statement

Did I say any thing about this board in my statement, Mr Sanders ?

 

[honestbharani]

No, I said it was even and either side could've won it.




No, I said that India did not dominate the match for reasons above.





Ah, the insults, wondered how long it would take for them to come.

Perhaps you should read what I put rather than what you want to attack.





Domination doesn't end up 1-1.





As the pot speaks to the kettle.

So you think the match was even? How was that? Like I said, we made more runs than Australia and we took more wickets than them? How does that make that match even? Langer talked of 'trying to save the game' and 'having to work hard to do that'. Even they had given up thoughts of winning. But you still think Australia had an even chance of winning....With 4 wickets in hand and just one specialist batsman at the crease to make more than a 100 runs when the specialist batsmen themselves managed only 300 odd runs for losing 6 wickets.....80 odd runs with 4 wickets in hand - result could have gone either way, I accept. But I remember you said that it was a test match India ALMOST LOST. I will find that post to quote it in my next post but if you have accepted that it was a mistake, then we are cool...My only beef with you has been you trying to say that India didn't dominate the series, which we did. Like I said, we made more runs and we took more wickets in Sydney. We played better cricket than them, it is as simple as that. So we were better off in that series than what they were...



As regards to the whole thing about Bangladesh winning a test before India winning a series away from home, hey, I want both of those to happen and it doesn't really matter to me what happens first because I think both things are not that far away...



And sorry about insulting. I got a little carried away. I am sorry, really sorry....However wrong I felt your theory was, I should not have said some of those things. I kinda had a rather tense day. Sorry about that and I apologize to the whole boards for that.

 

[luckyeddie]

Did I say any thing about this board in my statement, Mr Sanders ?

No, you didn't, but my crystal ball wasn't working properly at the time. Sorry about that.

(wonders about someone using my real name, paranoid about hiding behind the anonymity the internet affords, thinks about posting EnglishRose's email address on a few other message boards, reconsiders)

 

[honestbharani]

"Dominating" a match you nearly lost!

India did not dominate the whole series, which was the point I made with "1 match"





How does it suit them more then their opposition, and does it really matter either way as if they win a game, it goes down as a win regardless of conditions.




To what?

There, you said we nearly lost the match. That was the part I was talking about. Australia were nearer to losing this match than we ever were....That is my whole point....

 

[Linda]

marc, most of your 18000 odd posts are utter drivel

This is why he has his own subtle disclaimer at the bottom, 'You know it makes sense!'

 

[tooextracool]

My only beef with you has been you trying to say that India didn't dominate the series, which we did. Like I said, we made more runs and we took more wickets in Sydney. We played better cricket than them, it is as simple as that. So we were better off in that series than what they were...

i agree with you on the part that india were the better team in that series....but "dominating" is different from "outplaying" which seems to be the case here. dominating is what england did to the WI or australia have been doing in the ashes.