Who is the best current International Coach

[tooextracool]

If i'm right(which I think I surely am), you have misunderstood.(again as ususal). I didn't mean they would still be better than everyone else I meant they will cope with it better.

the post doesnt make any sense anyways and bares absolutely no relation to my point!

 

[chicane]

what about in the first 3 tests??jeez the guy averages more than 50.
besides if you can say that india missed zaheer khan etc despite the fact that pathan,kumble and agarkar more than made up for them then australia missed lehmann.

That's exactly why I posted that. Anyway jeez Zaheer and Nehra destroyed you guys, NZ and SRL and produced some of the finest fast bowling performances in Indian history, they were so not-average.

 

[chicane]

Yawn so where were we....oh yeah India totally deserve every bit of praise for their performance in the toughest challenge of world cricket and can now be considered a potent force who have the capability to win series outside Asia.

 

[Sudeep]

Yawn so where were we....oh yeah India totally deserve every bit of praise for their performance in the toughest challenge of world cricket and can now be considered a potent force who have the capability to win series outside Asia.

Though we are actually supposed to discuss about John Wright and others of his kind (COACH) in this thread.

 

[chicane]

Though we are actually supposed to discuss about John Wright and others of his kind (COACH) in this thread.

Hey man are you an undercover mod or something? Stop worrying about details. The topic of this thread had changed a long time ago..

 

[Sudeep]

Hey man are you an undercover mod or something? Stop worrying about details. The topic of this thread had changed a long time ago..

*** Sarcasm ***

 

[chicane]

How does the purple font help?

 

[Sudeep]

How does the purple font help?

*** Sarcasm ***

Happy?

 

[chicane]

Actually purple looked better

 

[marc71178]

If they don't have one scheduled why is it their fault? You are questioning their ability to win a series outside Asia and even think Bangladesh have a better chance of winning a test after their appalling record. Jeez!

Yes, because of the time scale involved - that's the whole crux of the argument

You were comparing them based on the PWC ratings and a record which if compared logically, i.e vs Australia and Pakistan, the only two common teams they have played, says a different story.

No, the logical thing to do is look at their career records (unless they don't favour your bloke that is)

And when has Harmison played Pakistan?

Supposed injuries to Indian bowlers? The best bowlers of both sides were unavailable, that's my point.

Yes, but the best bowlers for Australia are world class and they lose a lot with the replacements - the best Indian bowlers could easily be replaced with similarly mediocre players.

 

[marc71178]

And re.England's win, Australia definitely weren't playing with full intensity and were a shade complacent.

Right, so India beating an very much understrength side is great playing from India, but when England beat a much less understrength side, it's the Aussie's lacking in intensity.

 

[marc71178]

Anyway jeez Zaheer and Nehra destroyed you guys, NZ and SRL and produced some of the finest fast bowling performances in Indian history, they were so not-average.

When was this?!

Nehra is so not-average, he's very much below-average.

 

[chicane]

Yes, because of the time scale involved - that's the whole crux of the argument

K lets just say they play a few series outside Asia now...who do you think will win first? Or do you think India can't win a series outside Asia?

No, the logical thing to do is look at their career records (unless they don't favour your bloke that is)

Fine then you make it suit Harmison by pushing aside his record vs Australia. You can keep pointing to his average which was improved by his 7-12 and the wickets against Bangladesh. What might have been if the Indian team went to Bangladesh.

Yes, but the best bowlers for Australia are world class and they lose a lot with the replacements - the best Indian bowlers could easily be replaced with similarly mediocre players.

Zaheer was by no-means mediocre till the 2003 WC, where he finished among the top wicket takers and the best averages and sr.rates, and even in the Bangladesh-South Africa tri series. Now you will say in the WC the atmosphere helped the quicks and Zaheer was suddenly made to look much better than he actually is or maybe it was all a fluke.

When was this?!

Nehra is so not-average, he's very much below-average.

The 2003 World Cup. The below-average Nehra put England out of the super-sixes(say more about the difficulty of batting under lights), then in the sixes they bowled out SL for 109 and NZ for 146.

 

[superkingdave]

I assume he must mean the WC when Nehra took 6 for

 

[Sudeep]

Are we still at this?

 

[chicane]

Now see this!

 

[marc71178]

The 2003 World Cup. The below-average Nehra put England out of the super-sixes(say more about the difficulty of batting under lights),

Yes, and look at his overall WC Record (not that good) and his overall international record (absolutely woeful)

 

[chicane]

Yes, and look at his overall WC Record (not that good) and his overall international record (absolutely woeful)

His overall WC record, better than all the English bowlers. His International record is woeful but so was Harmison's recently. And if he is so pathetic, and he has played several other day-nighters, it just shows how appalling England were that night that he finished with 6-23.(most of which were superb deliveries that the batsmen couldn't do much about)

 

[marc71178]

The lights made the difference - as England fans accepted when Anderson took a hatful against Pakistan.

Nehra's record in the World Cup was highly skewed by 2 or 3 good performances (1 of which was light-induced)

 

[Sudeep]

Nehra could have been a good bowler, but the guy can't keep fit.

And I don't like his attitude. He picks up a wicket, and he strolls as if he owns the place, as if it was only routine for him. Reality check Nehra, you're not as good as the others in the side, because half the time you're not in the side. Sure, you picked a wicket, you need to enjoy, get recognition, but what his way of celebrating does is make him look arrogant.

His fielding skills are not even zero, they are in the minus. He can't run quick, can't dive, can't even put his hand in the middle of a ball going trough.