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[chicane]

so?if your batting was that good they should have outbatted NZ's

So if Australia had won 16 tests in a row they should have crushed India in India.

and when you want to you can so conveniently use the fact that india played well in england,a series that happened even before the NZ series

I only pointed to Headingly as an initial sign that we are beginning to change.

if zaheer khan was missed by india you can only imagine how much mcgrath and warne were missed by australia

Sure, India would've missed Warne.

 

[marc71178]

There were injuries to both sides....period.

Yes, but Australia's were so much worse and had far more effect.

 

[tooextracool]

And explains why Murali picked up so many wickets. Sri Lanka's batting and support bowlers let them down..

you just answered the question yourself.

I was following it, though not every minute.

so if you didnt follow them then you are in no position to talk about them

And now it's the other way round, everyone except Lara and to some extent Sarwan and Gayle are not performing. Which is better? .

how many times do you keep ignoring the fact that england bowled better!!!

The WI bowling now isn't exactly breathing fire on Bangladesh.

watch the series between england and WI

So just bury it for good now. It was even.

how was it even??brad williams/nathan bracken and mcgill didnt bowl half as well as warne and mcgrath would have. dont be ridiculous the losses that australia suffered from the loss of mcgrath,warne and lehmann were far greater than those suffered by india for the loss of z khan and harbhajan

 

[marc71178]

I only pointed to Headingly as an initial sign that we are beginning to change.

A quite isolated incident...

 

[chicane]

And the Pakistani attack has what affect on the location?

No effect on the location, it's just the similarity in attacks India will face away from Asia. Get it?

Yes, a total of 3 matches in 15 years...

3 tests in Pakistan in 1989 and 3 tests during the Asian test championship in 1999. That's six.

 

[marc71178]

1989 is the start of it - if 2 teams aren't playing, how can one team be dominating?

 

[Raj123]

Yes, but Australia's were so much worse and had far more effect.

hardly relevant though. You play the side thats been put out. period.

 

[chicane]

you just answered the question yourself.

Whaa, I thought I said Murali picked up a bagful of Aussies and the other spinners were'nt upto the mark(Lokuarachchi for eg.) and their batting was poor. I answered your stupid comments.

so if you didnt follow them then you are in no position to talk about them

Same goes for you. If you can then so will I.

how many times do you keep ignoring the fact that england bowled better!!!

Even disregarding the India and England series that was the case.

how was it even??brad williams/nathan bracken and mcgill didnt bowl half as well as warne and mcgrath would have. dont be ridiculous the losses that australia suffered from the loss of mcgrath,warne and lehmann were far greater than those suffered by india for the loss of z khan and harbhajan

Warne wouldn't have made too much of a difference (the same Warne who got hammered in 2001). Keep crying about McGrath, we can start crying about Javagal Srinath retiring after the WC. Lehmann! Why Lehmann again and again? What's your obsession with this guy? And Harbhajan I thought destroyed Australia in 2001, and he wasn't missed?

 

[tooextracool]

So if Australia had won 16 tests in a row they should have crushed India in India.

did australia get whitewashed by india like india did in NZ though?as far as i remember it was one of the closest series for a long time. definetly shows that they arent all that bad at playing spin bowling as india are in seaming conditions

I only pointed to Headingly as an initial sign that we are beginning to change.

and i only pointed to NZ to show you that you are still far away from being a good team in seaming conditions

 

[chicane]

A quite isolated incident...

Say whatever you want. Headingly was significant for us.

 

[chicane]

did australia get whitewashed by india like india did in NZ though?as far as i remember it was one of the closest series for a long time. definetly shows that they arent all that bad at playing spin bowling as india are in seaming conditions

Australia were murdered in 1997 and in 2001 they were outplayed period. Keep shouting out NZ 2002, it was hardly test cricket. Australia are poor with spin and India are poor with swing. That's it, you can't say who's poorer at what, at least not with the example of New Zealand 2002.

and i only pointed to NZ to show you that you are still far away from being a good team in seaming conditions

And may I start commenting on England against spin. I'll just point out Sri Lanka 2003. Absolutely appalling.

 

[tooextracool]

Whaa, I thought I said Murali picked up a bagful of Aussies and the other spinners were'nt upto the mark(Lokuarachchi for eg.) and their batting was poor. I answered your stupid comments.

well to answer some of your "genius" comments it must be said that if no one else was capable of getting any wickets then surely all the wickets would go to murali

Same goes for you. If you can then so will I.

considering i share the same opinion as a lot of other people here that goes down the drain and shows that i did watch the cricket

Warne wouldn't have made too much of a difference (the same Warne who got hammered in 2001).

dont underestimate warne....and even if he had bowled as badly as he did in 99-00(last time india toured australia) he would have still been better than macgill

Lehmann! Why Lehmann again and again? What's your obsession with this guy? And Harbhajan I thought destroyed Australia in 2001, and he wasn't missed?

umm perhaps it has something to do with the fact that he averages 53 and that hes the best player of spin in their side...oh and he also mastered murali in SL like not many other players have done before.

 

[marc71178]

hardly relevant though. You play the side thats been put out. period.

Yes, but Chicane continually uses these injuries at some point or other as an excuse or reason why India actually won the series 4-0...

 

[marc71178]

And may I start commenting on England against spin. I'll just point out Sri Lanka 2003. Absolutely appalling.

Oh yes, the way we ground out 2 draws in 3 games was absolutely terrible.

 

[tooextracool]

Australia were murdered in 1997.

point being?australia wasnt the best batting side then and werent half as good as they are now. so dont be ridiculous and bring up stuff from 7 years ago.

and in 2001 they were outplayed period.

so you dont watch series in india either?so im beginning to think that you dont watch any cricket and just read what the press has to say in the papers and on cricinfo.

Keep shouting out NZ 2002, it was hardly test cricket. Australia are poor with spin and India are poor with swing. .

how many times must it be said that they are a far better team against spin than india are against swinging conditions!! they just whitewashed SL in SL unlike india who were whitewashed in NZ. do you see the differencE????

And may I start commenting on England against spin. I'll just point out Sri Lanka 2003. Absolutely appalling.

what is your point here?did i say that england are the best batting side in the world??dont bring up inane irrelevant posts!! if you cant prove your point you seem to get at england.

 

[chicane]

Yes, but Chicane continually uses these injuries at some point or other as an excuse or reason why India actually won the series 4-0...

I always said both sides had injuries. You're the one who keeps crying about Gillespie, McGrath and Warne.

 

[tooextracool]

Say whatever you want. Headingly was significant for us.

yea because it was another flat pitch win!more than 1000 runs were scored in the match and you are saying that the ball was moving around all over the place

 

[chicane]

point being?australia wasnt the best batting side then and werent half as good as they are now. so dont be ridiculous and bring up stuff from 7 years ago.

so you dont watch series in india either?so im beginning to think that you dont watch any cricket and just read what the press has to say in the papers and on cricinfo.

You're digging yourself deeper and deeper into a pit. It shows your ignorance and stupidity. I'm not surpirsed you don't see the point. I think you said you were only 12 years old, aren't you? Clearly shows, just go back to school and wait till you grow up. But don't be an arrogant fool when you don't have a point to make.

how many times must it be said that they are a far better team against spin than india are against swinging conditions!! they just whitewashed SL in SL unlike india who were whitewashed in NZ. do you see the differencE????

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Don't talk like a professor now when you should just be doing your school homework. I'm not going to repeat again and again because you'll come up with more and more trash.

what is your point here?did i say that england are the best batting side in the world??dont bring up inane irrelevant posts!! if you cant prove your point you seem to get at england.

There's very much a point. Why shouldn't I get at England, when an Englishman(boy) goes on and on with rubbish about India.

 

[Raj123]

yea because it was another flat pitch win!more than 1000 runs were scored in the match and you are saying that the ball was moving around all over the place

that may be true and probably(partially) the reason indians are starting to win a few matches outside. but thats how most of the international pitches are these days and would still mean that indians are likely to win more matches outside.

 

[tooextracool]

I think you said you were only 12 years old, aren't you?.

shows how much of my posts you've read....i have never ever said in any of my posts how old i was so if you going to have to resort to insults at least they should have some amount of truth in them

Clearly shows, just go back to school and wait till you grow up. But don't be an arrogant fool when you don't have a point to make..

no it clearly appears as though you cant prove your point so you are resorting to insults. if looking at a team from 7 years ago says alot about their current characteristics to you then fine.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Don't talk like a professor now when you should just be doing your school homework. I'm not going to repeat again and again because you'll come up with more and more trash..

you tell me that i should be in school when clearly you havent gone to any school. if you cant figure that out yourself than dont let me help you any further.

There's very much a point. Why shouldn't I get at England, when an Englishman(boy) goes on and on with rubbish about India.

which says alot about the reasoning behind most of your posts here....you dont have a cricketing fact, and are resorting to getting at england's cricket when the posts so far barely concern england

You're digging yourself deeper and deeper into a pit. It shows your ignorance and stupidity. I'm not surpirsed you don't see the point.

if you want to come at me with all those lame insults then go ahead,dont let me stop you from your insolent ways. i have never called you stupid or ignorant until now and i guess its better if i dont respond to your posts ever again
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