Who is currently the best all-rounder at international level?

[Natman20]

Location: Auckland, NZ

lol


Cairns vs. Flintoff
(Odis because cairns obviously doesn't play tests anymore)

[B]Batting - M / I / R / AV[/B]
Cairns - 204 / 184 / 4767 / 29.42
Flintoff - 90 / 78 / 2313 / 34.52

Bowling - M / B / R / W / AV / SR
Cairns - 204 / 7766 / 6150 / 193 / 31.86 / 40.23
Flintoff - 90 / 3329 / 2358 / 96 / 24.56 / 34.67

OK so flintoffs stats are remarkably better

 

[Shane Warne]

I have noticed that most people in this thread are English and that shows as youre all biased with Flintoff. I would rate Cairns higher I think.

Don't be stupid.
















Symonds is the best.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Chris Gayle
15 wickets @ 28podd
431 runs @ 47podd this year

Hmmmm.... Flintoff is the best.

 

[twctopcat]

Chris Gayle
15 wickets @ 28podd
431 runs @ 47podd this year

Hmmmm.... Flintoff is the best.

You must bowl pace to be considered for this prized award, there are strict rules.









This therefore disqualifies Gayle and Kallis

 

[steds]

Enough of this joking around. The obvious # 1 is Rikki Clarke, of course

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Enough of this joking around. The obvious # 1 is Rikki Clarke, of course

True. He's not set a foot wrong in international cricket this year. Semantics, granted.

 

[Shane Warne]

Chris Gayle
15 wickets @ 28podd
431 runs @ 47podd this year

Hmmmm.... Flintoff is the best.

Oh yeah, Gayle.

There's another alrounder who's better than Flintoff.

 

[Swervy]

Oh yeah, Gayle.

There's another alrounder who's better than Flintoff.

well I guess the best team in the world has been outplayed by an over rated wannabe allrounder today then..I guess we should be really looking at Australias number one position in the world if such a ****e player like Flintoff can outplay every single one of their players,and that with a screwed shoulder as well

God know what Chris Gayle and Kallis could do to this Aussie batting line up ...allout 50 I reckon

 

[luckyeddie]

Chris Gayle
15 wickets @ 28podd
431 runs @ 47podd this year

Hmmmm.... Flintoff is the best.

Nowt wrong wi' Crystal - still one of my all-time favourite super-cool cricketers.

 

[aussie]

Top 5 all rounders for me:

1.Gilchrist
2.Flintoff
3.Kallis
4.Cairns
5.Sangakkara

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Oh yeah, Gayle.

There's another alrounder who's better than Flintoff.

That, sir, is ridiculous... and I'm West Indian.

 

[steds]

That, sir, is ridiculous... and I'm West Indian.

You're also stoned


*runs away*

 

[marc71178]

Gilchrist obviously.

Non keeper, Symonds.
Then Cairns.

Yes, of course a player who can't get in the team is much better than someone who scores 2 fifities and takes 5 wickets...

 

[marc71178]

That's a nice way to put your own spin on things by picking and chosing a few meaningless phrases, however I'll think I'll go with.

56.87 batting average and 31.60 bowling average over 31.57 & 33.65

Yes, which is all well and good until you realise Swervy is an Aussie.

 

[marc71178]

I think I must be missing something regarding Kallis...I always thought you had to be a world class bowler to be considered a world class allrounder.

Is Kallis a world class bowler?

Is he even a bowler?

 

[Shane Warne]

Is he even a bowler?

Is Flintoff even a batsman or a slogger who happened to get lucky today and played an innings like Shane Warne currently is?

 

[marc71178]

I have noticed that most people in this thread are English and that shows as youre all biased with Flintoff. I would rate Cairns higher I think.

Based on what?

 

[Shane Warne]

Based on what?

Being better.

 

[marc71178]

Is Flintoff even a batsman or a slogger who happened to get lucky today and played an innings like Shane Warne currently is?

No, he's not.

But since things are going against Australia we can understand why you're moaning.

 

[Shane Warne]

No, he's not.

But since things are going against Australia we can understand why you're moaning.

I'd give you credit if you were able to beat our first team.