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Who are the better 'Across Format' players
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Migara
International Coach
Sachin was not needed to bowl his style, because India had many spinners and part timers, and WI did not. Sachin could bowl medium pace, off spin, leg break googlies too. Just as Sobers is more a bowler than his average suggests - because he was versatile - same applies to Tendulkar.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
There's no guarantee his batting quality would remain unaffected by higher focus on bowling, sure Sachin could've been a good bowler I give you that but he never was and never had to balance it with his batting so it's just a hypothetical.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Sachin tbf was kinda clutch with the ball, especially in ODIs in the of 90s. He defended less than 5 runs in the Final Over, Twice. But don't think his bowling against Viv's really is a plus. Viv was borderline an allrounder in ODIs.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Viv's leadership and fielding capability is a proper point.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Not really a fan of Viv's captaincy, fielding is fair.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
He was definitely more tactically competent even if not a great manager of players.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Viv was a good captain all said and done. Kept WI unbeaten despite big challenges.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah he was a good captain, and an ATG fielder, comparatively I do think Tendulkar was not built for captaincy and was a average-decent fielder.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Viv
ABD
Their fielding prowess makes a difference
Garner
Ponting
Fielding and a big gap in ODIs
S Pollock
Close, but ODIs sway it
Wasim
Batting gets him over the line - very handy in ODIs (av of 16.5 and s/r of 88 was excellent)
ABD
Their fielding prowess makes a difference
Garner
Ponting
Fielding and a big gap in ODIs
S Pollock
Close, but ODIs sway it
Wasim
Batting gets him over the line - very handy in ODIs (av of 16.5 and s/r of 88 was excellent)
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Well behind.
Ponting is one of Australia's 3 greatest ODI bats along with Bevan and Jones, while Smith wouldn't be in the top dozen.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
name 12 better Australia ODI bats than Smith
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Here's 13
Bevan
Jones
Ponting
G Chappell
M Hussey
M Waugh
Gilchrist
Hayden
Warner
Clarke
Head
Symonds
Lehmann
Some could also mount a decent argument for one or two of
Boon, Watson, Finch, Martyn, Bailey
This is not that Smith is bad, but more that Australia has produced extremely good ODI batsmen.
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akilana
State Captain
me neither.. but i'm a big fan of sachin's captaincy.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Arguably the worst captain in Indian history.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I mention his captaincy a bit but always get pushback.
I think his insane desire to retain the WI legacy, often to extremes, kept WI unbeaten whereas they were vulnerable the second half of the 80s and could easily have lost a series. Heck Australia with a stronger team lost series between 98 to 2007.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
I think he was a great Cricketing captain (strategist, handling bowlers, inspiring the team) but a terrible manager of the team.