Which player would you select in your average side?

[subshakerz]

ATG bowler would have more of an impact in a test match than an ATG batsman.

We don't even need to speculate Hadlees impact

 

[Johan]

ATG bowler would have more of an impact in a test match than an ATG batsman.

name two average teams

 

[sayon basak]

name two average teams

That's a good question. Before all of this average side threads, one should define an average side. Or maybe construct an average side consisting of 11 average players.

 

[subshakerz]

name two average teams

SL, NZ.

 

[Johan]

SL, NZ.

Sobsrs for NZ, Hadlee for SL

 

[sayon basak]

Average teams do not exist.

 

[Johan]

Average teams do not exist.

the concept is fundamentally weird to me as I don't think I've seen a side consistently average in everything, average sides either have good batting/bad bowling (2000s Pakistan) or good bowling bad batting (current India)

 

[DrWolverine]

Mid & late 1990s NZ?

 

[Coronis]

the concept is fundamentally weird to me as I don't think I've seen a side consistently average in everything, average sides either have good batting/bad bowling (2000s Pakistan) or good bowling bad batting (current India)

Closest for this decade would be India’s batting (or Afghanistan’s) plus England’s bowling. Statistically, at least.

 

[Johan]

Closest for this decade would be India’s batting (or Afghanistan’s) plus England’s bowling. Statistically, at least.

I would take Gary for that side.

 

[DrWolverine]

Average teams do not exist.

1990s England
Boring & average at the same time

 

[Johan]

for 1990s England, Hadlee for the first half, Gary for the second.

 

[sayon basak]

1990s England
Boring & average at the same time

Sure, but the term "average" isn't helpful at all. Two teams can be average, but still may require totally different things.
So, I think, one should first create an average team, and then ask which players would we prefer in that team.

 

[sayon basak]

Attempt to create an average team:-

Zak Crawley
Kris Srikkanth
Ollie Pope
Shubhman Gill
Litton Das
Moeen Ali
Denesh Ramdin+
Umar Gul
Monty Pasener
Lasith Malinga
Chris Martin

 

[DrWolverine]

Attempt to create an average team:-

Zak Crawley
Kris Srikkanth
Ollie Pope
Shubhman Gill
Litton Das
Moeen Ali
Denesh Ramdin+
Umar Gul
Monty Pasener
Lasith Malinga
Chris Martin

This team would benefit more from Richard Hadlee than Gary Sobers

 

[subshakerz]

Average teams do not exist.

Basically mid tier sides that are not minnows or unusually bad. In the 80s would be India or England.

 

[Coronis]

Aamer Sohail
Malinda Warnapura
Faf Du Plessis*
Brendan Taylor
Gary Ballance
Craig McMillan
Moin Khan+
Geoff Lawson
Javagal Srinath
Paul Adams
Mohammad Siraj

 

[Johan]

Attempt to create an average team:-

Zak Crawley
Kris Srikkanth
Ollie Pope
Shubhman Gill
Litton Das
Moeen Ali
Denesh Ramdin+
Umar Gul
Monty Pasener
Lasith Malinga
Chris Martin

Sobers and Hadlee would've roughly similar impact on this team.

 

[subshakerz]

Sure, but the term "average" isn't helpful at all. Two teams can be average, but still may require totally different things.
So, I think, one should first create an average team, and then ask which players would we prefer in that team.

I am assuming in this hypothetical by average side, we are talking bats that are all average, maybe mid 30s averaging all, and bowlers that are all average, maybe late 20s and early 30s types.

 

[subshakerz]

This team would benefit more from Richard Hadlee than Gary Sobers

There is no mid tier side that wouldn't benefit more from Hadlee than Sobers IMO.