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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
The famous white ball chokers (SA) are the one and only Men's Commonweath gold medal winnners (beat Oz in the final).

I remember reading a NZ cricket biography that mentioned the tournament from one of the players (can't remember which one), and the Black Caps were hanging out by the games village pool rating their physiques when suddenly the rugby 7s lads (Lomu, Cullen, Rush, Dallas Seymour etc) turned up for a swim and the cricketers felt a bit muscularly inadequate so made themselves scarce.

That was a rare tournament when Northern Ireland played alone (as Eire/the South is obviously not in the Commonwealth). The English speaking West Indies were separated into their Commonwealth countries, while not surprisingly hosts Malaysia finished last.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
I don't think Chris Drum fell particularly into the range of bowlers who benefited from pitches playing low, and ball holding up in the surface - that a Tait, Styris, Larsen, Canning etc did.
I don't know about this....haven't looked at the stats but out of this list I feel like I don't really remember Larsen or Styris swinging it much, so they were probably the "wicket to wicket, hard to score off" types you're talking about. I also visualise them almost always bowling with the keeper up to the stumps. Were either really prolific wicket-takers?

Canning, Tait and Drum I feel were a bit different as they all probably swung it a bit and bowled with the new ball quite a bit, and with the keeper back? I can definitely picture Canning bowling with the new ball with the keeper back at Eden Park #2 and taking lots of wickets on (slow) green seamers.

I guess the "argument", if there is one, is whether Drum was more of a conventional frontline quick bowler while the others were more dibbly dobbly - I feel like he was still broadly in the Canning/Tait category.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
I wonder if, with our small y young batting prospects being Ravindra, Foxcroft, Phillips, and Clarkson we'll look at them filling the ODI 5th bowler role, and probably in other formats too. Partly because we haven't played them, we don't know if this lot will hold up as batters or bowlers, but even if only 2 continue their current ways, then that would justify a 4 bowler strategy.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
I am stunned to find that Mark Douglas played 6 ODIs, I would’ve said I could remember every NZ international of the last 30 years but honestly I wasn’t sure he had played internationals. For some reason the 1994/95 season is a bit of a blank in my mind while I remember the seasons either side of it quite well.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I am stunned to find that Mark Douglas played 6 ODIs, I would’ve said I could remember every NZ international of the last 30 years but honestly I wasn’t sure he had played internationals. For some reason the 1994/95 season is a bit of a blank in my mind while I remember the seasons either side of it quite well.
Too drunk that season obviously.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Mark Bailey played one ODI and did not bat, a thriller where we beat Zimbabwe on the last ball 5 wickets down. Funnily enough he was demoted to number 8 (or possibly lower I guess) in the chase despite being a specialist bat. The aforementioned Alex Tait was promoted above him (which seems completely bizarre, but maybe Tait was seen as a better slogger) and was there when the winning runs were scored.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
I am stunned to find that Mark Douglas played 6 ODIs, I would’ve said I could remember every NZ international of the last 30 years but honestly I wasn’t sure he had played internationals. For some reason the 1994/95 season is a bit of a blank in my mind while I remember the seasons either side of it quite well.
You are lucky not to remember 94/95.

For an NZ cricket fan - worst.season.ever.

In the domestic thread, a few weeks ago - we were talking about the first ever televised nz domestic match. Shell Cup semis in 89/90 season. For me, in those games, Mark Douglas was the player I was most excited to see for the first time. Was a pretty promising batsman, maybe this second or first season . But mostly the Sports Roundup comms had been in a lather all season about his fielding.
 

Binkley

U19 Captain
I remember Douglas took an unbelievable catch in one of those Shell Cup games. I would love to see a replay to see if it still stands up against today’s standards. If I recall correctly he was at short cover and caught a full blooded drive diving full length to one side (his right?). In the replay you could see he was almost already vertical when the shot was played, so the anticipation was amazing. It may be that it has grown in my imagination since it happened, but it has stayed in my head as the best catch I have ever seen.
 

jcas0167

International Debutant
Yeah, Douglas along with Chris Harris was one of the best fielders in the country. Mark Bailey was kind of Hamilton's answer to Mark Waugh. As @Smudge said, a tall elegant player who stroked the ball with exquisite timing. He used a Slazenger bat like Waugh too.

Speaking of old catches, I recently found footage of this classic by Greatbatch that was one of the first great catches I saw. Henry Blofield in the comms just tops it off. At 23.45 seconds in. This was the last game in the beige uniform too.

 
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The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
Yeah, Douglas along with Chris Harris was one of the best fielders in the country. Mark Bailey was kind of Hamilton's answer to Mark Waugh. As @Smudge said, a tall elegant player who stroked the ball with exquisite timing. He used a Slazenger bat like Waugh too.

Speaking of old catches, I recently found footage of this classic by Greatbatch that was one of the first great catches I saw. Henry Blofield in the comms just tops it off. At 23.45 seconds in. This was the last game in the beige uniform too.

Warning: contains Peter Williams
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, Douglas along with Chris Harris was one of the best fielders in the country. Mark Bailey was kind of Hamilton's answer to Mark Waugh. As @Smudge said, a tall elegant player who stroked the ball with exquisite timing. He used a Slazenger bat like Waugh too.

Speaking of old catches, I recently found footage of this classic by Greatbatch that was one of the first great catches I saw. Henry Blofield in the comms just tops it off. At 23.45 seconds in. This was the last game in the beige uniform too.

I've been looking for that catch for years! Great find.
 

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