Trescothick in cheating revelation!

[pup11]

Anyone else think it's funny that most of the Aussie team that actually lost the Ashes in 05 aren't thinking much of this but Damien Fleming is making a bit of a song and dance about it????



Fleming s obviously looking for some contract with some newspaper or TV station, I guess.

As far as the players are concerned the Ashes 05 series is history now, and whining about how they were cheated won't change a thing, so being a professional player the best thing to do now for most of the Australian players, is just laugh this incident off, and that's exactly what they have done, of course Flemo is a critic so he would have to come up with something like this, that what his job is.

 

[pasag]

Anyone else think it's funny that most of the Aussie team that actually lost the Ashes in 05 aren't thinking much of this but Damien Fleming is making a bit of a song and dance about it????



Fleming s obviously looking for some contract with some newspaper or TV station, I guess.

Doubt it's a song and dance, he was probably contacted by cricinfo or whoever and gave his honest answer to the question posed. And yeah's he's one of the best commentators on bowling.

 

[pup11]

Doubt it's a song and dance, he was probably contacted by cricinfo or whoever and gave his honest answer to the question posed. And yeah's he's one of the best commentators on bowling.

AWTA, Flemo has raised some very valid points without going over the top, and next time England starts to reverse the ball as early as the 20th over in English conditions, certainly eyebrows would be raised and pockets would be checked.

 

[Richard]

After finally reading this thread, a couple of thoughts:

1, everyone knew mints were used in 2005. It wasn't a "yes they did" "no they didn't!" thing. It was said as fact by both parties, those which accused of wrong and those which said no wrong happened.
2, the suggestion that sucking sweets is in any way either wrong or remotely possible to ban is utterly ludicrous. Any more than that of using certain types of suncream to enhance the quality of sweat to shine the ball. You either ban using saliva\sweat on the ball completely or you stop making such a stupid fuss when someone uses something to enhance the quality of those natural products.
3, Jones, who apparently genuinely said "we didn't" rather than "who the &$£@ cares if we did? There's nothing wrong or illegal about it" when Bracken first mentioned it doesn't exactly look good now. Either he or Trescothick could have thought about that.
4, as stated ad nauseum, 2005 wasn't the first or last time such sweet-sucking was done, nor use of certain suncream on oft-sweating areas like the forehead. And England, and other teams, have swung cricket balls with and without help from this many, many times.

 

[Burgey]

After finally reading this thread, a couple of thoughts:

1, everyone knew mints were used in 2005. It wasn't a "yes they did" "no they didn't!" thing. It was said as fact by both parties, those which accused of wrong and those which said no wrong happened.
2, the suggestion that sucking sweets is in any way either wrong or remotely possible to ban is utterly ludicrous. Any more than that of using certain types of suncream to enhance the quality of sweat to shine the ball. You either ban using saliva\sweat on the ball completely or you stop making such a stupid fuss when someone uses something to enhance the quality of those natural products.
3, Jones, who apparently genuinely said "we didn't" rather than "who the &$£@ cares if we did? There's nothing wrong or illegal about it" when Bracken first mentioned it doesn't exactly look good now. Either he or Trescothick could have thought about that.
4, as stated ad nauseum, 2005 wasn't the first or last time such sweet-sucking was done, nor use of certain suncream on oft-sweating areas like the forehead. And England, and other teams, have swung cricket balls with and without help from this many, many times.

Nah, I still don't buy it.....