Top 50 Greatest test batters

[Johan]

Sobers' peak years.

 

[subshakerz]

Tendulkar averaged 60 for a period of 18 years and 157 tests between 93 to 2011.

 

[Johan]

Sobers is 65 for 1958-73 I think, but can't be bothered to check.

 

[DrWolverine]

Sobers(1958-1973)
75 Tests.130 innings.
7260 runs. Avg of 64.82
26 centuries & 26 fifties.

Sachin(1992-2010)
163 Tests. 268 innings.
13866 runs. Avg of 58.2
49 centuries & 55 fifties.

 

[Johan]

He should get his world XI work from 1970-71, played full line attacks, so

8,178 runs. Avg of 64.99 in 147 innings.
29 hundreds.

 

[Johan]

statistical perfection.

 

[DrWolverine]

It shouldn’t

That being he decimated them with both bat & ball

 

[Johan]

Yeah absurdly great series.

 

[kyear2]

I agree. But every batsman has his share of excuses.

Between 1992-2011, Sachin averaged more than 40+ in 17 out of 20 years. That’s 85%.

But you're literally doing the same thing. Cutting off years at the front and back end.

And there's a difference between being groomed as the next great and teen prodigy and debuting as a 18 year old spinner, never being coached, bowling 40 overs a match and wearing down from that.

 

[DrWolverine]

But you're literally doing the same thing.

I did the same thing just to tell every player has some issues.

Sachin started too early and retired too late.
Lara had some eye issues apparently.
Smith & Sobers started as spinners.

 

[kyear2]

He should get his world XI work from 1970-71, played full line attacks, so

8,178 runs. Avg of 64.99 in 147 innings.
29 hundreds.

The only issue with Sobers is batting at 6.

Two years ago the batting rankings here were.

Bradman, Hobbs, Sobers, Tendulkar, Richards.

Not that much batting done by any since then, and as they are in my rankings, all competing to be the BAB.

One wants to make the argument that Sachin beats them in longevity, sure.

He was also arguably the least impactful to wins, and the only one who wasn't the definitive best bat of their era.

Yes, in overall greatness he's 3 behind Bradman and Hobbs, but Richards and Sobers are right there.

 

[DrWolverine]

The five best post war batsmen.

Hutton. Sobers. Richards. Sachin. Smith.

I don’t think any specific order is right or wrong.

 

[Gob]

Babar

 

[subshakerz]

The only issue with Sobers is batting at 6.

Scoring mostly on pancake wickets at home.

 

[ma1978]

Sobers downgraded for his era and below Viv and Lara amongst Windies batters

 

[subshakerz]

The five best post war batsmen.

Hutton. Sobers. Richards. Sachin. Smith.

I don’t think any specific order is right or wrong.

Any orders as long as Sachin leads lol

 

[kyear2]

Scoring mostly on pancake wickets at home.

You do know Sachin played at home in India his entre career. At no point was it pace friendly. But somehow the 2000's still took it a step further as it helped no one.

So yes, Sachin also very much had pancake wickets at home.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Daily reminder not a single Indian pacer with atleast 2 wickets averaged over 32 at home in the 90s, most did low to mid 20s

 

[peterhrt]

Ranji is English

We don't claim him, from what I've read, he was a bit of a wannabe.

In 1945 Pelham Warner was in his seventies and had seen a lot of cricket. He wrote:

For skill pure and simple no batsman has ever surpassed KS Ranjitsinhji, Victor Trumper, Hobbs or Don Bradman. This may sound like heresy when one thinks of WG Grace, but in actual execution I do not believe that even he was their superior.

A couple of years later India was independent. As the British Empire dissolved, so did appreciation of Ranji. The princely class had been close to the British and he moved in his youth to England where he played virtually all his cricket. Ranji's feats were followed by Indians from afar. He was not a product of Indian cricket like Nayudu and Nissar, and was viewed very differently there. India's domestic competition bears his name because it started up under British rule.

With Indian cricket never really claiming him, English writers began to treat Ranji as a relic from a bygone imperial age that was no longer relevant, and more or less ignored him. Left without a champion, he has become seriously underrated as a cricketer.

 

[shortpitched713]

Weekes at 48 and Sobers at 9 is absolute villainy.