The Prediction Thread

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Ridding diseases in Bangladesh and Zimbabwe doesn't count towards your stats I'm afraid

You saying that any seamer could take wickets against Bangladesh? Oh the arrogance. Cue Kabir Ali.

 

[GIMH]

I'm sorry, but I fail to see any evidence that Stuart macgill has ever left a pie half-eaten

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

You can't save the poor and reduce famine by giving them half-eaten pies.

...unless you've got Warne nourishing them at the other end.

 

[GIMH]

You saying that any seamer could take wickets against Bangladesh? Oh the arrogance. Cue Kabir Ali.

LOL

 

[Jono]

I'm sorry, but I fail to see any evidence that Stuart macgill has ever left a pie half-eaten

Well when the batsman, instead of eating (i.e hitting them over the fence) the pies (long hops) hit them straight into a fielder, that's the definition of half-eating them.

 

[Jono]

...unless you've got Warne nourishing them at the other end.

Lol, very true.

 

[GIMH]

Well when the batsman, instead of eating (i.e hitting them over the fence) the pies (long hops) hit them straight into a fielder, that's the definition of half-eating them.

I think it's time I went back to bed. And it's only 3pm.

 

[Jono]

Bangladesh's performance kept you up late?

 

[marc71178]

You can't save the poor and reduce famine by giving them half-eaten pies.

LOL - classic!

 

[SA]

until the end of the world when Jesus comes back for his people:

- Donald Bradman will always remain the greatest batsman of all-time
- Gary Sobers will always remain the greatest all-rounder of all-time

The greatest allrounder of alltime is Imran Khan.Gary Sobers played on uncovered pitches which had lot of support for the bowlers & even then managed to end his career with a bowling average of 32 which isn't considered good for bowlers in this era where most pitches are more supportive to batsmen as compared to bowlers.Gary Sobers is definitely one of the greatest batsmen ever but he was a very ordinary bowler & thats why can't be rated as the best allrounder of alltime.Imran Khan & Ian Botham were better allrounders than him,but only by inches.

 

[aussie]

The greatest allrounder of alltime is Imran Khan.Gary Sobers played on uncovered pitches which had lot of support for the bowlers & even then managed to end his career with a bowling average of 32 which isn't considered good for bowlers in this era where most pitches are more supportive to batsmen as compared to bowlers.Gary Sobers is definitely one of the greatest batsmen ever but he was a very ordinary bowler & thats why can't be rated as the best allrounder of alltime.Imran Khan & Ian Botham were better allrounders than him,but only by inches.

all true about the conditions Sobers bowled under, but come o he's the greatest. Khan & Botham were better bowlers at their peaks than Sobers yea, but they aren't close to him as a batsman.

I aint know expert on the history of the game, but you got to be a brave man to debate that Sobers isn't the greatest all-rounder of all-time.

 

[tooextracool]

dont thin these 3 will realistically come through.

as far as adam gilchrist is concerned, its happened in 2 series since the ashes against far inferior attacks. dont see why its impossible for it to happen again,

 

[Eclipse]

as far as adam gilchrist is concerned, its happened in 2 series since the ashes against far inferior attacks. dont see why its impossible for it to happen again,

because he's a great player and likely to snap his form slump?

 

[tooextracool]

because he's a great player and likely to snap his form slump?

and of course if a person believes that he wont he is wrong to do so?
and whether or not it is a form slump is questionable, because its only happened ever since bowlers have started to go around the wicket to him.

 

[aussie]

and of course if a person believes that he wont he is wrong to do so?
and whether or not it is a form slump is questionable, because its only happened ever since bowlers have started to go around the wicket to him.

good point , i think he will get out of the slump but may not be as consistently destructive as he was frpm november 99 to march 2005.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

and of course if a person believes that he wont he is wrong to do so?
and whether or not it is a form slump is questionable, because its only happened ever since bowlers have started to go around the wicket to him.

Gilchrist has probably faced more right-armers going around the wicket than any other batsman in international cricket. Like Lara a while back, everybody does it to him, and everyone always has. Flintoff obviously found a weakness, but it's not as though nobody had tried it before, Gilchrist just played them better.

The closest before Flintoff was Vaas, who got Gilchrist a few times in a similar way. I think it's more an issue of Gilchrist's poor form leading him to be susceptible to that particular ball that leaves him from around the wicket, than Flintoff being the first to bowl to him in that way.

 

[SA]

all true about the conditions Sobers bowled under, but come o he's the greatest. Khan & Botham were better bowlers at their peaks than Sobers yea, but they aren't close to him as a batsman.

I aint know expert on the history of the game, but you got to be a brave man to debate that Sobers isn't the greatest all-rounder of all-time.

If Imran & Botham aren't close to Sobers as a bastmen but is Sobers close to anyone of them as a bowler?If Sobers is one of the greatest batsmen ever then Imran would also make top 10 bowlers of alltime.Sobers may've been twice the batsman Imran & Botham were,but Botham was 8 times & Imran was 10 times the bowler Gary Sobers was.Everyone has his own opinion & IMO,Imran & Botham were better allrounders than Gary Sobers.

 

[adharcric]

If Imran & Botham aren't close to Sobers as a bastmen but is Sobers close to anyone of them as a bowler.If Sobers is one of the greatest batsmen ever then Imran would also make top 10 bowlers of alltime.Sobers may've been twice the batsman Imran & Botham were,but Botham was 8 times & Imran was 10 times the bowler Gary Sobers was.Everyone has his own opinion & IMO,Imran & Botham were better allrounders than Gary Sobers.

I'd say Imran Khan is the greatest all-rounder, because he was good enough to make the team with either bat or ball.
Sobers, then, was the greatest overall cricketer, because he was just below Bradman (I suppose?) with the bat and also made more-than-decent contributions with the ball.

The value of an all-rounder is not the sum of his batting and bowling value really, because then Bradman would be one of the best all-rounders ever (because his batting was unbelievable and would make up for the lack of bowling). The value of an all-rounder is indicated by his being above a certain level of quality with both bat and ball.

 

[aussie]

I'd say Imran Khan is the greatest all-rounder, because he was good enough to make the team with either bat or ball.

Sobers, then, was the greatest overall cricketer, because he was just below Bradman (I suppose?) with the bat and also made more-than-decent contributions with the ball.

1. hmm well based on all this well probably Imran Khan is probably the greatest all-rounder, because he could make any team as a pure batsman or a bowler.

2. Nah Sobers had to be above Botham as a batsman, since the only two batsmen in the game's history that could be considered better than him are Bradman & Hobbs.

 

[adharcric]

1. hmm well based on all this well probably Imran Khan is probably the greatest all-rounder, because he could make any team as a pure batsman or a bowler.

2. Nah Sobers had to be above Botham as a batsman, since the only two batsmen in the game's history that could be considered better than him are Bradman & Hobbs.

I never mentioned Botham ...