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The Best and Worst of 2005
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Murtaza Nasir
Cricket Spectator
Best
South Africa Win Against New Zealand
Ashes Win 4 England
Pakistan Win Against England
Worst
Sourav out of team
South Africa loss test match
Zimbabwe cricket
South Africa Win Against New Zealand
Ashes Win 4 England
Pakistan Win Against England
Worst
Sourav out of team
South Africa loss test match
Zimbabwe cricket
The winners of 2005 were IMO - England followed by India and a late comeback by Australia (just taking the whole year into account only).
Steady state (neither winning nor losing) - NZ , South Africa, Pakistan
Losers of 2005 (and big time too) were - Sri Lanka, West Indies , Zim, Bangladesh.
Overall IMO England were the winners of 2005 (just taking the year alone into consideration)
Steady state (neither winning nor losing) - NZ , South Africa, Pakistan
Losers of 2005 (and big time too) were - Sri Lanka, West Indies , Zim, Bangladesh.
Overall IMO England were the winners of 2005 (just taking the year alone into consideration)
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Jason. There is an article in today's paper regarding massive dissent in the Sri Lankan team on Vaas being made vice captain. Any comments ?JASON said:The winners of 2005 were IMO - England followed by India and a late comeback by Australia (just taking the whole year into account only).
Steady state (neither winning nor losing) - NZ , South Africa, Pakistan
Losers of 2005 (and big time too) were - Sri Lanka, West Indies , Zim, Bangladesh.
Overall IMO England were the winners of 2005 (just taking the year alone into consideration)
From the news item I read, it seems Tom Moody is supposedly behind Vaas because of their association from Worcester days, while most of the Team were unhappy that it happened in Mid Tour. i.e. after the ODIs in India and before the Tests, making Mahela and several players unhappy.
There is also some suggestion that this was the reason Vaas missed the final Test(after some of the other senior players met up with him and expressed their disapproval of how the Vice Captaincy change apparently promoted by Moody came about ) rather than due to illness as was attributed then.
Looks like SL has a not too dissimilar scenario to India doesn't it ?
I personally Like Vaas as a true gritty performer and his efforts in helping SL over these years deserve recognition.
But when it comes at the expense of Team unity, I am not sure its worth it.
I certainly feel its time for the Captaincy Mantle to move on to someone else, as Atapattu is the weakest SL Captain I have known. His leadership fails to inspire others in his Team.
It may not be a bad idea for the Captaincy to move to Mahela after the VB series, which I expect to be a massive hammering, unless something miraculous happens.
As I have expressed several times before, I also feel Tom Moody's contract needs to be terminated early (after the VB series) as the Team has gone down hill during his tenure and he seems to be at the centre of Team disunity as well.
There is also some suggestion that this was the reason Vaas missed the final Test(after some of the other senior players met up with him and expressed their disapproval of how the Vice Captaincy change apparently promoted by Moody came about ) rather than due to illness as was attributed then.
Looks like SL has a not too dissimilar scenario to India doesn't it ?
I personally Like Vaas as a true gritty performer and his efforts in helping SL over these years deserve recognition.
But when it comes at the expense of Team unity, I am not sure its worth it.
I certainly feel its time for the Captaincy Mantle to move on to someone else, as Atapattu is the weakest SL Captain I have known. His leadership fails to inspire others in his Team.
It may not be a bad idea for the Captaincy to move to Mahela after the VB series, which I expect to be a massive hammering, unless something miraculous happens.
As I have expressed several times before, I also feel Tom Moody's contract needs to be terminated early (after the VB series) as the Team has gone down hill during his tenure and he seems to be at the centre of Team disunity as well.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
Best - The Ashes
Worst - The Ashes
Worst - The Ashes
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
What was it about Vaas' elevation that stirred their ire? Was it simply that Moody and Vaas shared a county?JASON said:From the news item I read, it seems Tom Moody is supposedly behind Vaas because of their association from Worcester days, while most of the Team were unhappy that it happened in Mid Tour. i.e. after the ODIs in India and before the Tests, making Mahela and several players unhappy.
There is also some suggestion that this was the reason Vaas missed the final Test(after some of the other senior players met up with him and expressed their disapproval of how the Vice Captaincy change apparently promoted by Moody came about ) rather than due to illness as was attributed then.
Looks like SL has a not too dissimilar scenario to India doesn't it ?
I personally Like Vaas as a true gritty performer and his efforts in helping SL over these years deserve recognition.
But when it comes at the expense of Team unity, I am not sure its worth it.
I certainly feel its time for the Captaincy Mantle to move on to someone else, as Atapattu is the weakest SL Captain I have known. His leadership fails to inspire others in his Team.
It may not be a bad idea for the Captaincy to move to Mahela after the VB series, which I expect to be a massive hammering, unless something miraculous happens.
As I have expressed several times before, I also feel Tom Moody's contract needs to be terminated early (after the VB series) as the Team has gone down hill during his tenure and he seems to be at the centre of Team disunity as well.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Rikki Clarke.marc71178 said:
Those teeth might be the nearest thing we ever come to it in the real world.
To be honest, Vaas was never in the reckoning in the Captaincy or Vice Captaincy stakes of SL cricket, although many felt he should be recognised for his efforts, he was never IMO considered a leader of the Team.LongHopCassidy said:
So when his elevation came about Mid tour - I guess many felt that by association, Moody was the main promoter of Vaas, since there is some suggestion that Vaas had some input in Moody initially being brought into the SL coaching fray (possibly because his contract at New Road was going to end any way and he was exploring international coaching options and Vaas having been there(at New Road) set about introducing Moody's name into that process).
Vaas BTW has no Captaincy experience even at domestic level.
age_master
Hall of Fame Member
Best
Ashes - top class series and top sportsmanship shown on both sides
Lara's passing of the record
Warne's performances for the year
Worst
The umpiring decisions while down under
Zimbabwe
Super sub being named before the toss and the fielding restrictions
Ashes - top class series and top sportsmanship shown on both sides
Lara's passing of the record
Warne's performances for the year
Worst
The umpiring decisions while down under
Zimbabwe
Super sub being named before the toss and the fielding restrictions
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Best memories of the year 2005
Top 10
Ashes - a boost English cricket needed. Chances of an Asian origin majority forming an England first XI has reduced for the future because of this with more people taking inerest in cricket than ever before. Andrew Flintoff deserves a special mention here.
Pakistan Cricket - Woolmer and Inzamam handled Shoaib very well. Pakistan cricket is going up hill and I am very happy for that.
Chappell-Ganguly controversy - It is a positive and not a negative. Just take a look at how India was faring before it to understand.
Warne and McGrath - The two legends dispelled doubts and showed why they remain champions.
South African cricket - The team continues to strengthen. Now only if there was an apt replacement for Donald. :sigh:
West Indian cricket - If you looked closely at the Windies tour of Australia, you would have found glimpses of why the future is bright for the Windies. It will not happen in the near future but wait for a few years and the Windies will be competitive again.
Bangladesh - They became men from boys in that tour of England. Defeating Australia in that one dayer will provide them inspiration which will be an instrument of growth for the future.
Murali's delivery to dismiss Dhoni - Murali doing a Warne!
Shephard umpiring for the last time - We feel sad on such ocassions but feel happy, almost honoured at the same time to have witnessed such magical men.
Hussey hitting the roof - Impossible is nothing! Also symbolised very well the year he has had. Brilliant start and inexplicable why despite the form in the LOI's he wasnt at least included in the squad for the Ashes. Not necessary thought the Australians. We cant possibly loose. An attitude which was a major reason for the loss. The positive attitude of the English team despite the hammering of the press after the first test being the other major factor.
Top 10
Ashes - a boost English cricket needed. Chances of an Asian origin majority forming an England first XI has reduced for the future because of this with more people taking inerest in cricket than ever before. Andrew Flintoff deserves a special mention here.
Pakistan Cricket - Woolmer and Inzamam handled Shoaib very well. Pakistan cricket is going up hill and I am very happy for that.
Chappell-Ganguly controversy - It is a positive and not a negative. Just take a look at how India was faring before it to understand.
Warne and McGrath - The two legends dispelled doubts and showed why they remain champions.
South African cricket - The team continues to strengthen. Now only if there was an apt replacement for Donald. :sigh:
West Indian cricket - If you looked closely at the Windies tour of Australia, you would have found glimpses of why the future is bright for the Windies. It will not happen in the near future but wait for a few years and the Windies will be competitive again.
Bangladesh - They became men from boys in that tour of England. Defeating Australia in that one dayer will provide them inspiration which will be an instrument of growth for the future.
Murali's delivery to dismiss Dhoni - Murali doing a Warne!
Shephard umpiring for the last time - We feel sad on such ocassions but feel happy, almost honoured at the same time to have witnessed such magical men.
Hussey hitting the roof - Impossible is nothing! Also symbolised very well the year he has had. Brilliant start and inexplicable why despite the form in the LOI's he wasnt at least included in the squad for the Ashes. Not necessary thought the Australians. We cant possibly loose. An attitude which was a major reason for the loss. The positive attitude of the English team despite the hammering of the press after the first test being the other major factor.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Worst of the year 2005
Top 10
The super sub rule - No we do not want to complicate our cricket and such advantage to teams winning tosses.
The Zimbabwe situation symbolised by Taibu this year.
The humiliation heaped upon Saurav Ganguly. It was inevitable though as he did not do a Hussain and retire from tests at the right moment when he saw young talent coming up.
The end of Thorpe - A superb batsman who never won the Ashes.
Decline of Sri Lankan cricket - In a year in which many other nations rose, Sri Lankan cricket plumetted. Among bowlers who have taken 50 or more test wickets for Sri Lanka, only two have an average below 30 - Murali and Vaas. A new bowler has to be found soon, not to mention the problem of finding batsmen if a big decline is to be stopped.
The Australian selectors - Known to make very good decisions like playing Gilchrist instead of Healy in the past, the recent form has been pathetic. Dropping Bevan, Lehmann were just the trailers. This year has seen the inexplicable dumping of Martyn, non inclusion of Hussey for the Ashes despite being one of the few people in form and not trying MacGill even though the back up pace attack was proving to be impotent among many others.
The Indian selectors - Ganguly was selected for his all round ability and included for every other reason except his batting ability. When he did show some batting ability, he was dropped. And then made a come back because of his experience despite not playing a single inning after being dropped. There was the case of smaller mortals like Dinesh Karthik, L.Balaji too.
West Indies contract issue - The tour of Australia did take place. But sitting over the table and looking at tha larger picture of not hampering the future of Windies cricket by both parties - the players and administrators would be the better thing to do in the future.
Jason Gillespie
Ordinary captaincy - Whether it was Ponting, Smith, Atapattu or Chanderpaul - the story was the same.
Top 10
The super sub rule - No we do not want to complicate our cricket and such advantage to teams winning tosses.
The Zimbabwe situation symbolised by Taibu this year.
The humiliation heaped upon Saurav Ganguly. It was inevitable though as he did not do a Hussain and retire from tests at the right moment when he saw young talent coming up.
The end of Thorpe - A superb batsman who never won the Ashes.
Decline of Sri Lankan cricket - In a year in which many other nations rose, Sri Lankan cricket plumetted. Among bowlers who have taken 50 or more test wickets for Sri Lanka, only two have an average below 30 - Murali and Vaas. A new bowler has to be found soon, not to mention the problem of finding batsmen if a big decline is to be stopped.
The Australian selectors - Known to make very good decisions like playing Gilchrist instead of Healy in the past, the recent form has been pathetic. Dropping Bevan, Lehmann were just the trailers. This year has seen the inexplicable dumping of Martyn, non inclusion of Hussey for the Ashes despite being one of the few people in form and not trying MacGill even though the back up pace attack was proving to be impotent among many others.
The Indian selectors - Ganguly was selected for his all round ability and included for every other reason except his batting ability. When he did show some batting ability, he was dropped. And then made a come back because of his experience despite not playing a single inning after being dropped. There was the case of smaller mortals like Dinesh Karthik, L.Balaji too.
West Indies contract issue - The tour of Australia did take place. But sitting over the table and looking at tha larger picture of not hampering the future of Windies cricket by both parties - the players and administrators would be the better thing to do in the future.
Jason Gillespie
Ordinary captaincy - Whether it was Ponting, Smith, Atapattu or Chanderpaul - the story was the same.
TIF
U19 Debutant
best of 2005 -
1. emergence of power-players like dhoni, pietersen, kemp and hussey with extra-ordinary batting avges and strike-rates
2. bangladesh beating australia and turning into a team who can beat the top teams
3. pakistan beating england in the test series after england had won the ashes
worst of 2005 -
1. zimbabwe crisis and taibu quitting
2. super-subs and powerplay rules in odis
3. kumble not being counted among great spinners despite having taken 485 wickets in tests
1. emergence of power-players like dhoni, pietersen, kemp and hussey with extra-ordinary batting avges and strike-rates
2. bangladesh beating australia and turning into a team who can beat the top teams
3. pakistan beating england in the test series after england had won the ashes
worst of 2005 -
1. zimbabwe crisis and taibu quitting
2. super-subs and powerplay rules in odis
3. kumble not being counted among great spinners despite having taken 485 wickets in tests
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
BEST:
- The fluctuating fortunes in the Ashes, and England turning it around after a long time
- India's resurgence in ODI's, where they thumped the 2nd best ODI side and gave the next best team a run for their money
- He's strong. He's aggressive. He's dangerous. He's Mahendra Singh Dhoni!
- MISSED OUT: Irfan's second skill proving to be a handfl
- MISSED OUT: Kumble....still going strong
- Zimbabwe.....bad to worse
- The StupidSub and PowerLess rules
- The Stupid Series....need I say more?
- MISSED OUT: Sri Lankan team on a steep decline
- MISSED OUT: While Ganguly's exclusion angers the whole country, nobody spared a thought for JP Yadav but for three fans
tooextracool
International Coach
Best:
The FTBs Hayden and graeme smith failing miserably against England and Australia and illustrating my point perfectly.
The Ashes.
Simon Jones fulfilling some of his potential that i thought he had a year and a half ago.
Shane Watson proving that he is a test class bowler.
Andrew Symonds getting picked ahead of Martyn, Katich and Clarke.
Bangladesh defeating Australia
Ricky Ponting complaining about not playing in the spirit off the game.
Shahid Afridi
Michael Hussey- a bevan in the making.
Shane Bond
Worst:
Hayden tightening his technique to play swing and seam better.
Chris Gayle's 308
Super Series
The Saurav Ganguly episode
Dropping Thorpe
Shane Bond missing the chappell-hadlee series
The FTBs Hayden and graeme smith failing miserably against England and Australia and illustrating my point perfectly.
The Ashes.
Simon Jones fulfilling some of his potential that i thought he had a year and a half ago.
Shane Watson proving that he is a test class bowler.
Andrew Symonds getting picked ahead of Martyn, Katich and Clarke.
Bangladesh defeating Australia
Ricky Ponting complaining about not playing in the spirit off the game.
Shahid Afridi
Michael Hussey- a bevan in the making.
Shane Bond
Worst:
Hayden tightening his technique to play swing and seam better.
Chris Gayle's 308
Super Series
The Saurav Ganguly episode
Dropping Thorpe
Shane Bond missing the chappell-hadlee series
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
Why is that bad? Isn't that what you've been saying he should do for ages now?tooextracool said: