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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

peterhrt

State Regular
Recently I was trying to rank the greatest teams in history and had the '53 England team I think 4th or 5th.

But what do you think was the best English team and lineup (that took the field together) from that period?
Personally I would say the team that played 6 Tests between 17 December 1954 at Sydney and 28 March 1955 in Auckland. 5 wins and a rain-affected draw that would also probably have been won. Three wins in a row in Australia. Excludes the first Test in Brisbane when England put their opponents in, picked no spinner, dropped twelve catches and lost by an innings. The turnaround was remarkable.

Nine players appeared in all six matches: Hutton, May, Cowdrey, Bailey, Evans, Tyson, Statham, Appleyard and Wardle. In Australia the other two places were filled by a combination of Compton, Edrich and Graveney. The Middlesex pair went home before the New Zealand leg so Reg Simpson came in. To pick an eleven, I would go for Melbourne and Adelaide when Compton and Edrich both played and the series was won.

Bedser, Trueman and Laker weren't needed. They may have enjoyed more illustrious careers than others before or after, but Hutton was a shrewd judge of form, character and conditions, and his selections paid off.
 

Coronis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
For reference, this is the team Cardus et. all were referring to.

Archie MacLaren*
C.B Fry
K.S Ranjitsinhji
Stanley Jackson
Johnny Tyldesley
Dick Lilley+
George Hirst
Gilbert Jessop
Len Braund
Bill Lockwood
Wilfred Rhodes

first two tests both ended in draws due to rain, and Australia did win the series 2-1.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
For reference, this is the team Cardus et. all were referring to.

Archie MacLaren*
C.B Fry
K.S Ranjitsinhji
Stanley Jackson
Johnny Tyldesley
Dick Lilley+
George Hirst
Gilbert Jessop
Len Braund
Bill Lockwood
Wilfred Rhodes

first two tests both ended in draws due to rain, and Australia did win the series 2-1.
Bowling a bit crap outside of Lockwood and Rhodes, but gun batting lineup tbf. Hella deep.
 

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