The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Thala_0710]

Pre-1970

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Hammond
Headley
Sobers
Ames
Miller
O Reilly
Barnes
Trueman

You can't really include Trueman but not Barnes

just for reference, this team will outscore the post 1970 team, and likely beat them too.

Yeah could include him and WG Grace, I generally don't go there but.

 

[Johan]

Barnes and Grace are different eras

 

[Thala_0710]

They are, but both are pre WW1, and I generally don't pick guys before that

 

[Johan]

do you not rate them or do you not just pick them?

 

[Thala_0710]

Don't pick them, because I find it difficult to compare them properly to the guys that came after them.
If other's don't, one ought to see a lot more of WG Grace on all time XIs of various kinds.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Pre 1970s:

Hutton
Hobbs
Bradman*
Grace
Hammond
Sobers
Ames+
Davidson
Lindwall
O'Reilly
Barnes


Team A:

Sutcliffe
Trumper
Headley*
Pollock
Barrington
Faulkner
Miller
Waite+
Trueman
Laker
Spofforth


Team B:

Mitchell
Rhodes
Ranji
Weekes
Compton
Nourse*
Walcott+
Larwood
Bedser
Grimmett
Statham


Team C:

Simpson
Merchant
MaCartney
Worrell*
May
Harvey
Cameron+
Lohmann
Tayfield
Johnston
Hall


Team D:

Shrewsbury
Lawry
Cowdrey
Taylor
McCabe
Noble*
Tate
Evans+
Mahmood
Adcock
Gibbs


Team E:

Morris
Ponsford
Dexter
Hazare
Walters
Mankad
Benaud*
Constantine
Oldfield+
Pollock
Turner

 

[Johan]

No Miller and Trueman....

Man, I'm convinced, you just don't like cool Cricketers

 

[Johan]

Oh! Wait, Walcott keeps for me over Ames

 

[capt_Luffy]

No Miller and Trueman....

Man, I'm convinced, you just don't like cool Cricketers

Wanted Miller but with Sobers, he kinda is redundant there. Think Davidson's bowling is close enough to Trueman for his 24 avg to beat.

 

[Johan]

Wanted Miller but with Sobers, he kinda is redundant there. Think Davidson's bowling is close enough to Trueman for his 24 avg to beat.

My bowling would be, in order

Barnes
Trueman
Miller
O Reilly
Sobers

pretty satisfied with that I think

 

[Coronis]

Pre-1970

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Hammond
Headley
Sobers
Ames
Miller
O Reilly
Barnes
Trueman

You can't really include Trueman but not Barnes

just for reference, this team will outscore the post 1970 team, and likely beat them too.

Oh right I forgot Barnes. He can replace Trueman.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Since people love to say the modern era began in the 70’s.

My premodern XI

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Bradman*
Hammond
Barrington
Sobers
Ames+
Davidson
Lindwall
O’Reilly
Trueman

Barnes!!!! The 2 greatest bowlers pre-70s are near unquestionably Barnes and O’Reilly. Barnes most probably takes the 1st spot ahead of Tiger or tied at very best. And no one really loves O’Reilly more than me.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Oh right I forgot Barnes. He can replace Trueman.

Didn’t see that post coming at almost the same time.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Pre 1970s Xi

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman*
Grace
Hammond
Sobers
Ames+
Lindwall
O’Reilly
Barnes
Trueman

2nd Xi

Trumper
Sutcliffe
Headley
Barrington
Walcott
Worrell*
Miller
Davidson
Tallon+
Grimmett
Larwood

3rd Xi

Simpson
Morris
Ranji
Weekes
Hill*
Faulkner
Gregory
Oldfield +
Laker
Bedser
Spofforth

 

[Coronis]

Pre 1970s Xi

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman*
Grace
Hammond
Sobers
Ames+
Lindwall
O’Reilly
Barnes
Trueman

2nd Xi

Trumper
Sutcliffe
Headley
Barrington
Walcott
Worrell*
Miller
Davidson
Tallon+
Grimmett
Larwood

3rd Xi

Simpson
Morris
Ranji
Weekes
Hill*
Faulkner
Gregory
Oldfield +
Laker
Bedser
Spofforth

May cause controversy

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Pre 1970s Xi

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman*
Grace
Hammond
Sobers
Ames+
Lindwall
O’Reilly
Barnes
Trueman

2nd Xi

Trumper
Sutcliffe
Headley
Barrington
Walcott
Worrell*
Miller
Davidson
Tallon+
Grimmett
Larwood

3rd Xi

Simpson
Morris
Ranji
Weekes
Hill*
Faulkner
Gregory
Oldfield +
Laker
Bedser
Spofforth

Graeme Pollock??

 

[kyear2]

I'd go:
Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman*
Headley
Hammond
Sobers
Ames+
Davidson
Lindwall
O'Reilly
Trueman

Pretty close to perfect.

 

[kyear2]

They are, but both are pre WW1, and I generally don't pick guys before that

Same

 

[bagapath]

If Grace is considered for selection it should be for the A team and as opener; otherwise, he should be respectfully avoided, in my opinion.

Pre 1970 Team A

Dr WG Grace
Sir Jack Hobbs
Sir Don Bradman *
Walter Hammond
George Headley
Sir Garfiel Sobers
Jock Cameron +
Ray Lindwall
Fred Trueman
Bill O'Reilley
Syd Barnes

Pre 1970 Team B

Sir Leonard Hutton *
Herbert Sutcliffe
Denis Compton
Graeme Pollock
Sir Everton Weekes
Les Ames +
Keith Miller
Alan Davidson
Alec Bedser
Jim Laker
Fred Spofforth

Pre 1970 Team C

Bob Simpson
Arthur Morris
Sir Frank Worrell *
Neil Harvey
Kumar Ranjisinhji
Aubrey Faulkner
John Waite +
Maurice Tate
Peter Pollock
Rev. Wesley Hall
Clarrie Grimmett

 

[capt_Luffy]

if grace is considered for selection it should be for the A team and as opener otherwise he should be respectfully avoided, in my opinion

Pre 1970 Team A

Grace
Hobbs
Bradman *
Hammond
Headley
Sobers
Cameron +
Lindwall
Trueman
O'Reilley
Barnes

Pre 1970 Team B

Hutton *
Sutcliffe
Compton
G Pollock
Weekes
Ames +
Miller
Davidson
Bedser
Laker
Spofforth

Pre 1970 Team C

Simpson
Morris
Worrell *
Harvey
Ranji
Faulkner
Waite +
Tate
P Pollock
Rev. Hall
Grimmett

Think Rhodes probably should make the 3rd team