U19 12th Man
do you guys think scotty styris is under used as a bowler in test matches, as a very economical bowling I think he is very usefull when gilly and co are smashing the nz quicks around.
Mixing with lots of 120-odds, or even a few over 140, depending on the bowler. They seem to lose their swing when they play on flat pitches, or pitches with lots of bounce, or without any.The prototypical NZ pace bowler is generally someone who bowls around 130k back of length and tries to be accurate and get a bit of bounce (Oram, Mason), or someone who who bowls around 130k and tries to swing it (Franklin, Mills). Most of them aren't even very accurate.
Not too long ago, someone said that he's had a few problems with his knees, but he seems to be a lot fitter.It seems incredible that Styris, who bowls accurately at 130k and swings it a bit, is only regarded as a part time bowling option.
Cairns, Oram and Mills to a lesser extent offer more runs in the middle order, so there may be some point in playing them. Franklin is a decent swing bowler, but bowls way too slowly to be a consistent wicket-taker, but is a variation in the attack. Tuffey has just had one good series outside NZ, but seems slightly better than the rest. Mills bowls two bad balls an over, which is quite risky, and tends to no-ball a little too often. There was talk of getting Lance Hamilton in the side, though he's a little too old.It often amazes me that we are constantly rotating through bowlers like Mills, Franklin, Tuffey, Mason, Cairns, Martin, Oram, and a whole heap of others.
Cause, effect... He only gets more than 8 overs when he's bowling well. Utterly spurious point. That's like saying "Ponting averages very highly when he bats for more than two hours".Arjun said:Exactly. He's bowled a lot better in ODI's when he gets more then 8 overs, and since the NZ series, his bowling average has been in the 20's. Can't do worse than the likes of Chris Martin and Kyle Mills.
Cause, effect... He only gets more than 8 overs when he's bowling well. Utterly spurious point. That's like saying "Ponting averages very highly when he bats for more than two hours".
The likes of Martin, Mills, Franklin and a whole lot of specialist bowlers get their full 10 overs even when they're bowling utter rubbish. For what they bowl, the team already has Scott Styris. It makes such bowlers merely excess baggage in the team. If Styris bowls more often, they would have the place to play an extra batsman, and they need more runs. His position is optimised this way. They need specialist bowlers who are really special, not just more Styris clones without the batting skills.We need specialist test bowlers. Styris is a good ODI bowler and that's it, he's in the test team as a batsman.