Running Out Of Players Draft - Season 1

[GoodAreasShane]

Is there a doco on the Bosch story at all, id like to watch it.

Not that I'm aware of, but it is certainly a fascinating and tragic story. Done a lot of reading about his life and career, if there isn't some form of doco on him there certainly should be.

SeamUp might know

 

[Teuton]

I think nufan got distracted and timed out. I will pick George Giffen. George Giffen - Check Giffen's News, Career, Age, Rankings, Stats | ESPNcricinfo.com

 

[Teuton]

Season 1: Great Players Who Didn't Play Loads of Games
Arthur Morris
Hanif Mohammad
Ted Dexter
Herbie Taylor
Stan McCabe
Dean Jones
Brad Haddin
Mike Procter
Hugh Trumble
Frank Tyson
Bill Johnston
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Ian Redpath
Bruce Taylor
George Giffen

 

[ataraxia]

Ian Smith - Check Smith's News, Career, Age, Rankings, Stats | ESPNcricinfo.com

 

[ataraxia]

1. WM Woodfull
2. CB Fry* - 6
3. KS Ranjitsinhji - 7
4. RG Pollock
5. ED Weekes
6. MA Noble - 5
7. FE Woolley - 4
8. JF Reid +
9. JB King - 2
10. GA Lohmann - 1
11. CC Griffith - 3

12. SP Gupte
13. IDS Smith
14. MH Mankad

Ridiculous batting depth, with Lohmann in FC averaging 18 in a terrible era for batting and Griffith 16/17 with Reid keeping. The bowling depth is also great; Woolley and Noble are pretty good spinners excluding their batting. The Fry-Ranji partnership is legendary and that middle order is legendary even excluding the batting all-rounders from 6-8. Rather like this side; it has 7 all-rounders in the top XI effectively.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

My team:
BA Richards
PA Jaques
SG Law
DS Lehmann
OG Smith
CEB Rice
TRO Payne
VAP van der Bijl
AH Gray
BN Schultz
H Ironmonger

ML Love
JD Siddons
T Bosch

Pretty happy with this, especially that bowling attack

 

[NUFAN]

Yeah I got distracted for sure.

Ill just go Simon Jones

Simon Jones - Check Jones's News, Career, Age, Rankings, Stats | ESPNcricinfo.com

He is better there all your **** players but not as good as my season 2 three man pace attack.

 

[ataraxia]

Trundler timed out.

PEWS > TFO > Andrew > end

 

[NUFAN]

01 Herbert SUTCLIFFE
02 Vijay MERCHANT
03 Charlie MACARTNEY
04 Damien MARTYN
05 Douglas JARDINE c
06 John R REID
07 James FOSTER
08 Pat CUMMINS
09 Charlie TURNER
10 Ashley MALLETT
11 Sylvester CLARKE

12 Learie CONSTANTINE
13 Lawrence ROWE
14 Simon JONES

 

[ataraxia]

01 Herbert SUTCLIFFE
02 Vijay MERCHANT
03 Charlie MACARTNEY
04 Damien MARTYN
05 Douglas JARDINE c
06 John R REID
07 James FOSTER
08 Pat CUMMINS
09 Charlie TURNER
10 Ashley MALLETT
11 Sylvester CLARKE

12 Learie CONSTANTINE
13 Lawrence ROWE
14 Simon JONES

I'd prefer Clarke out for Constantine in that side.

 

[NUFAN]

That's interesting (I mean it).

Can you explain why? Just better Test credentials? Better all round package?

In my mind Clarke was quicker and I want a bowler like that in my XI, but they are both listed as right arm fast. I also have fredfertang in my head talking about his ex wifes and also perhaps more importantly talking up Sylvester.

 

[ataraxia]

I just like overrating him I suppose.

 

[mr_mister]

I too think Constantine was probably far more talented than his stats indicate

He certainly had a legendary reputation back in the day. Was the big superstar from the West Indies after Headley of course

 

[Teuton]

Imho ranking an early years figure head above a guy who didn't get a lot of chances due to being down the pecking order is fair enough (even if that pecking order is other worldly). You can never measure exposed talent across eras but impact on the game is certainly an indicator of ability where it may be close.

 

[mr_mister]

Yeah I concur. Also his cricinfo write up makes him seem like a godly cricketer

 

[NUFAN]

Maybe I should shift out Turner instead?

01 Herbert SUTCLIFFE
02 Vijay MERCHANT
03 Charlie MACARTNEY
04 Damien MARTYN
05 Douglas JARDINE c
06 John R REID
07 James FOSTER+
08 Learie CONSTANTINE
09 Pat CUMMINS
10 Ashley MALLETT
11 Sylvester CLARKE

12 Charlie TURNER
13 Lawrence ROWE
14 Simon JONES

I prefer this. I know its harsh on old Charlie who I picked relatively early.

 

[ataraxia]

Maybe I should shift out Turner instead?

01 Herbert SUTCLIFFE
02 Vijay MERCHANT
03 Charlie MACARTNEY
04 Damien MARTYN
05 Douglas JARDINE c
06 John R REID
07 James FOSTER+
08 Learie CONSTANTINE
09 Pat CUMMINS
10 Ashley MALLETT
11 Sylvester CLARKE

12 Charlie TURNER
13 Lawrence ROWE
14 Simon JONES

I prefer this. I know its harsh on old Charlie who I picked relatively early.

I should never have made a comment... Turner's very underrated here. IMO 7th greatest Aus quick; Cummins will probably push him out but not yet I don't think.

Anyway time for me to stop interfering with your XI.

 

[NUFAN]

Nah its good that you made a comment. I honestly struggle with bowlers from pre WW1. I just dont trust the stats. I picked Turner early but it was bugging me for bowling balance reasons.

I really do care about combinations and try to work out on a typical day how the 90 overs would be shared. And yeah, I just find it harder to work out with Turner in the XI.

Tl dr: Im not going to pick many WW1 bowlers moving forward.

 

[ataraxia]

PEWS timed out; TFO has 4.5 hours left.

TFO > Andrew > end

Trundler also has a catch up pick.

 

[AndrewB]

I think Maurice Leyland is still available, so will pick him

Stewie Dempster
Eddie Barlow
Duleepsinhji
Eddie Paynter
Patsy Hendren
Clyde Walcott+
Tony Greig*
Jack Gregory
Hedley Verity
Ian Bishop
Colin Croft

Budhi Kunderan
Maurice Leyland
Hedley Verity