honestbharani
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Lara is still the father of McGrath though.
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Ricky Ponting vs Joe Root
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capt_Luffy
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Y r u so racist??
sayon basak
International Coach
Racism is when a person is treated worse, excluded, disadvantaged, harassed, bullied, humiliated or even assaulted because of their race or ethnicity.
Father and Son usually have some common distinct features (like the colour of hair, eyes, even skin; height, shape of the nose, face etc) that may indicate their relation. Noticing different features between two people to conclude otherwise is in no way elevating one above the other. We should embrace our features and appreciate the diversity in our species, rather than using it in a negative manner.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Genetics is rather messy and not always a child inheriting the physical attributes of their father is an absolute certainty. White, tall, blonde guy having a black, short, bald son is far from impossible. Those traits could very well be inherited from the mother, or a plethora of other ancestors. Stereotyping groups like this racist, to blacks or whites be damned.
sayon basak
International Coach
Polygenic inheritance. McGrath would need to have some mixed ancestry for that as far as I know. And agree that stereotyping groups is indeed a malpractice. I'll give up on that approach, thank you for pointing that out to me.
Their age also a indicating factor imo. They're only one year apart. Relavistic effects may lead to such scenarios, but don't think humans have yet developed fast enough spacecrafts to manifest such scenarios.
Considering that it's legal to have a child at the age of 21 for boys,
Let's say, at the time of Lara going for a space travel, his age is F (F for father), so McGrath's age is F-21 at the time. Lara spends x years in space by Earth's time at the average speed equal to the top speed of Parker solar probe, the fastest spacecraft yet (1.92*10^5 m/s).
After Lara comes back, McGrath's age is F+x-21, but Lara's age will be F+x*√(1-v^2/c^2); where v=1.92*10^5 m/s and c=2.99792458*10^8 m/s).
As they are of equal age now, the equation should be,
F+x-21=F+x*0.9999997952;
so, x=102539052 years (approximately);
That means, he'd need to spend more than ten million years in space accoring to Earth's measurement (and his measurement as well). I don't think he'd have enough time to do so.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Firstly, the legal age for fatherhood isn't 21 years, it's 18 in most places, even 16 in some and a few more don't even have any age restriction. And it's not like being an underage father is a crime, the youngest father ever widely documented and proven is Alfie Patten, aged 12.
Secondly, they aren't a whole year apart. It's 9 months 7 days, and I don't have the exact data to deter the hours and minutes let alone seconds and milliseconds (not even gonna mention micro or nano). This though, is according to the official data available.
Thirdly, you are not taking the paranormal aspect into consideration, and hence disrespecting religions. If Mary can be a virgin mother, why can't Lara be a father before his first birthday, especially since it puts the insemination time of Glenn's mother uncomfortably close to the time of Brian's birth. Coincidence? I think not. Everything has a purpose and reason, hence it was divine intervention.
Fourthly, for those who don't believe in the mystic (yuk), I have
Fifthly, it could be just that they lied about their ages and forged documents and prove, and actually Lara is 12 years older, or McGrath is 12 years younger. In such scenarios this is quite common, the youngest mother ever documented was aged 5, and their child was raised alongside them as siblings. Or that Lara is actually an immortal vampire, and him ageing now is just a trick before he overruns the world (if it's so, please do it NOW. World sucks, Vampire overlord WAG WAG).
sayon basak
International Coach
Add those effects. it's still a number divided by (1-0.9999997952). It's gonna be a very big number.
Rest of the post has no point, And I already think my point is well established. Thank you for this exchange of thought.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Wdym the rest has no point?? Prove it. Age manipulation especially is very common, my own Step Maternal Grandfather did so for like 13 years.
BazBall21
International Captain
Ponting looked hopeless at times in India. Not sure I'd say that of Root in Australia.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Must’ve missed the past 5 years or so.
Pointings team wasn’t humiliated in Australia and Australia is more important for an England player than India is for an Australian
Johan
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Ponting and Warne lost a whole ass series for Australia in India in 2001, Root could average 45-50 in Australia and it wouldn't really change the results, definitely worse hole for Ponting than for Root.
Root made more runs, in less innings, playing for a much weaker team, in much tougher conditions on average, rest is all hogwash.
OverratedSanity
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What's weirder is saying either Root or Ponting is obviously better.
Uppercut
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What can I say, that’s what I think. Lots of players were scoring runs at close to Ponting’s level during his career. You can debate where he is on the pile of batsmen, it’s probably not too far off the top, but he’s part of the pile. Whereas the story of the last 13 years is that nobody can score any runs whatsoever except for exactly 4 guys, and Root’s one of them.
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I think they’re in the same tier and that’s it’s fine to vote for either but I think it’s harsh to use Punters final average in the comparison. He was averaging 57 during the first 13 years of his career.
During much of Ponting’s career, he was seen as a strong case to be the best after Bradman and @Uppercut I can’t agree with you. In an era of batting greats Ponting stood apart from David, Kallis, Sangakarra and for five years was as good as Tendulkar and Lara. That was never true with Root. This is not a denigration of Root, think he’s made a case to be a top 15 all time bat, but more a reflection of what a force Ponting was and how I think after that fact stats reflections hurt him because of the decline
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Ponting was fantastic for five years but it also coincided with playing with the strongest team of all time, He was always in a very good situation and Australia was the flattest place in the world between 2002 and around 2018 I reckon and Ponting was a big beneficiary of that. Outside those five years, his stats are not that flattering. Peak Ponting was definitely above Peak Dravid but overall I think suggesting Ponting truly diffrentiates himself from Sangakkara and Dravid is pushing it, infact, I'd rate the latter's tour of England and the prior's tour of New Zealand above anything Ricky did abroad, that's not to say they were superior batsmen to Ricky but to say it's definitely an arguable topic... infinitely more arguable than Ponting vs Lara or Sachin.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Not only was this true, anything else is revisionist history.