Peak steve smith vs peak tendulkar

[subshakerz]

If you never heard of Viv Richards and just saw his record, where would you rate him?

@Johan @subshakerz

Top ten but not top 5.

 

[Johan]

If you never heard of Lara and just saw his record, where would you rate him?

If you never heard of Viv Richards and just saw his record, where would you rate him?

@Johan @subshakerz

As it should be obvious with my views regarding people like Boycott, Compton, Weekes, Walcott, Worrell Trueman, May and Sutcliffe, I read a lot into Cricket so most probably I'd have him lower on first reading but as I read more and a strong opinion develops I'd have them similarly high as I do right now, maybe a little lower. Most people however don't read into Cricket so I think the majority from raw numbers would just place people low without doing their own research.

 

[subshakerz]

As it should be obvious with my views regarding people like Boycott, Compton, Weekes, Walcott, Worrell Trueman, May and Sutcliffe, I read a lot into Cricket so most probably I'd have him lower on first reading but as I read more and a strong opinion develops I'd have them similarly high as I do right now, maybe a little lower. Most people however don't read into Cricket so I think the majority from raw numbers would just place people low without doing their own research.

How much lower?

 

[DrWolverine]

Top ten but not top 5.

True.

Viv’s raw numbers are not that impressive.

TBH I feel even Sachin will be judged differently in future. I already see in some forums that Sangakkara and Kallis are better & Dravid was his equal.

 

[Johan]

How much lower?

Hm, definitely below Hutton, probably alongside Smith, while Lara alongside Hammond.

 

[subshakerz]

True.

Viv’s raw numbers are not that impressive.

TBH I feel even Sachin will be judged differently in future. I already see in some forums that Sangakkara and Kallis are better & Dravid was his equal.

Yeah Viv doesn't standout on any measure except SR though he isn't weak in any major one. It's his peer rating that gets him up to top tier.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah Viv doesn't standout on any measure except SR though he isn't weak in any major one. It's his peer rating that gets him up to top tier.

Absolutely not. It's his multiple ATG series against multiple ATG and ATVG bowlers regularly.

 

[DrWolverine]

He means when you see his record for the first time and do not know anything about him

 

[Coronis]

If you never heard of Viv Richards and just saw his record, where would you rate him?

@Johan @subshakerz

Reminds me of when I watched Richie Benaud’s Greatest XI. First time I heard of Viv. First time I heard of Barnes too, for that matter.

 

[DrWolverine]

Benaud’s team was very good.

 

[DrWolverine]

Maybe I would have had Maco instead of Lillee and Hadlee instead of Imran but other than that great

 

[subshakerz]

Maybe I would have had Maco instead of Lillee and Hadlee instead of Imran but other than that great

What about Barnes?

 

[subshakerz]

Absolutely not. It's his multiple ATG series against multiple ATG and ATVG bowlers regularly.

Of course that too

 

[capt_Luffy]

Of course that too

That's the prime reason.

 

[subshakerz]

That's the prime reason.

Sure.

 

[Johan]

What about Barnes?

3.5 times the bowler Alan Davidson was.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

At least Viv retired with a 50+ average. If he averaged 49, many that didn’t watch him bat might not even rate above Dravid.

 

[Coronis]

3.5 times the bowler Alan Davidson was.

Oh thats some sad overcompensation

 

[Johan]

Oh thats some sad overcompensation

1.3 times the bowler Alan Davidson was?

 

[Coronis]

At least Viv retired with a 50+ average. If he averaged 49, many that didn’t watch him bat might not even rate above Dravid.

Yeah thats why I rate Hill above Trumper, Trumper’s average was below 50.