screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
England's advantage is batting because, of the South African bowling, plus they need it more. South Africa have the edge because, they can face the England bowling and need to get into the groove.
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**Official** South Africa in England 2012
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Psycho Macaque
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Have you got NickKnightis? Or drunk? That'd be good. I mean, it'd be good if you're drunk, like. For you, I mean. Good for you that you're drunk.
screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
Let's just say it'll be a batting game?
Psycho Macaque
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Hmmm, the two best bowling attacks in the world against two sides that're prone to the odd collapse - and it'll be a batting game? You, sir, have compounded my drunk claim 
screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
So it'll be a low scoring affair? (Both sides have good bowling, that is why it'll be a batting game, whichever has the highest score wins).Hmmm, the two best bowling attacks in the world against two sides that're prone to the odd collapse - and it'll be a batting game? You, sir, have compounded my drunk claim
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
You're deriving that from very confused ideas; you already basically said that England have the advantage in batting because their bowling is better than South Africa's. That's not a batting advantage; that's a bowling advantage that may result in you scoring more runs that opposition (or if you actually look at properly - it may result in you bowling the opposition out for less than you score yourself). Your definition of "batting advantage" seems to be the same as everyone's else definition of "better team", as it factors in the strength of the bowling attacks, so the conclusion you were stumbling around in your earlier posts was that these two teams would in fact be playing cricket. Cheers for the insight.
What we have in the two best bowling attacks in the world, and two good but not brilliant batting lineups that have been prone to collapse in recent times. Why you think that means it'll "batting vs batting" is beyond me.
Psycho Macaque
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Hmmm, fuzzy logic there but I see where you're coming from. The general phrase for a series dominated by bowling would be 'a bowling game' 
But anyway, yeah, I reckon tons could be at a premium (unless that yellow disc in the sky makes its bi-yearly appearance)
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Every game is a batting game by that definition FFS.
screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
Fair point. Best bowling attacks. But batting vs batting because, whichever team bats better will win.
You're deriving that from very confused ideas; you already basically said that England have the advantage in batting because their bowling is better than South Africa's. That's not a batting advantage; that's a bowling advantage that may result in you scoring more runs that opposition (or if you actually look at properly - it may result in you bowling the opposition out for less than you score yourself). Your definition of "batting advantage" seems to be the same as everyone's else definition of "better team", as it factors in the strength of the bowling attacks, so the conclusion you were stumbling around in your earlier posts was that these two teams would in fact be playing cricket. Cheers for the insight.
What we have in the two best bowling attacks in the world, and two good but not brilliant batting lineups that have been prone to collapse in recent times. Why you think that means it'll "batting vs batting" is beyond me.
But moving on. Saffers to win.
screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
Yes this is obvious.
Jacknife
International Captain
Swann was MOTS last time we played them in SA taking 21 wickets, caused them problems especially in the first two tests. With the weather being what it is here, I doubt he'll be running through them, more keeping it tight and trying to nick one or two out while the seamers rotate at the other end. A lot will depend on how much decent weather we get and whether the pitches can dry and crack. Like you say lets hope the elbow doesn't give him any jip.
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Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
You think so? Really?
Anyway, moving on, Bumble reckons Steyn is a doubt for tomorrow if you believe twitter.
flibbertyjibber
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Lopsy probably.Wow, be a huge loss for SA if true.
Who would replace him, Albie Morkel?
I'm sure he'll play though.
Psycho Macaque
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
With his 9/160-odd saving him from some poor figures - hence my match-turning, devastating spells point.
I am worried about his elbow - he doesn't seem to be exacting the turn as much as usual and last time there were 26 bone fragments removed.
screamingfields
School Boy/Girl Captain
England have a batting advantage because of the way South Africa bowl. But South Africa do indeed have a better batting line up. But two of the best bowling teams so making it a interesting contest.
Either this guy is talking so much sense that I am unable to comprehend his insight or I've had a mental breakdown whilst trying to decipher any point from what he's saying.