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***Official*** New Zealand in South Africa

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Really surprised at this personally. Franklin actually has an excellent record when it comes to playing overseas in a variety of conditions. In both forms of the game his away record is markedly superior (test avg of 24.7 away compared to career avg of 28; ODI avg of 30 away compared to career avg of 37). He's had good success in England, South Africa and the Sub Continent (admittedly only against Bangladesh). Admittedly he's more effective on green wickets, but name me one fast bowler who isn't? More importantly he's the kind of bowler who can get a lot of swing no matter what the conditions (provided its a red ball he's swinging that is). He's also got an excellent control of reverse and seems to be gradually building up his pace. But overall what makes him valuable is that he's a wicket taker. His strike rate, though it may surprise you to here it, is one of the best of any international bowlers currently playing in the world. The fact that his batting average is in the low 20's and climbing is a nice bonus as well.

I agree with other comments that Martin is the 4th bowler in the New Zealand attack, but I don't necessarily agree that Mills is an automatic selection ahead of him. Mills is by trade an opener, who greatly relies on the prodigious swing of the new ball to pick up most of his wickets. Martin, while not necessarily as good in this role, is faster and more consistent, arguably making him more suited to the role of first change, which requires longer spells with less swing available. When the two have played together in test matches, neither one has dramatically outshined the other. It's a shame that Mills won't be fit in this series, as that would give a good idea of who deserves the 4th bowler spot. I certainly don't see how anyone can say that Gillespie is a much better bowler than Martin seeing as they play alsmost exclusively in different forms of the game.
Interesting stats, I would've thought that Franklin's averages would've been around the other way to be completely honest. Perhaps I am biased to his inability to react to the flat-ish strips in recent history at home in which he struggled and am using that to base everything. His test bowling average of 24.7 is extremely surprising to me, out of interest are you able to break that down into average by each country? Fair points there but I would still would call upon Martin and Mills before Franklin.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Interesting fact, ICC test rankings has Franklin as NZ's 3nd best bowler and once or twice he's brushed the top ten currently sitting at 17 one below Asif.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
This report's gonna be fun later:

South African top-order collapse to mediocre Kiwi attack
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
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New Zealand Feel Better About **** Top Order

A Martin and Oram induced collapse yesterday consoled a demoralised kiwi squad, captain Daniel Vettori had this to say; "We thought we were bad. Sheesh they live here."
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
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New Zealand Feel Better About **** Top Order

A Martin and Oram reduced collapse yesterday consolidated a demoralised kiwi squad, captain Daniel Vettori had this to say; "We thought we were bad. Sheesh they live here."
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New Zealand Feel Better About **** Top Order

A Martin and Oram induced collapse yesterday consoled a demoralised Kiwi squad. Captain Daniel Vettori had this to say: "We thought we were bad. Sheesh, they live here."
Post corrected (on 6 counts :p).

:laugh: tho BTW.
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Vettori recovering from a very poor start too
of 7-31-0 to get 4.5-13-3.

And bad light stops play. :@
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Ah, 1st over went for 10 did it? So that's the rest of it 10.5-34-3.

Only checked today's card for the first time by the time he'd bowled 7.
 

Raghav

International Vice-Captain
Good bowling performance from NZ. This is what I love from them! They get in to act soon when they feel they are getting out of the match! They are collective side. Hope they get a good batting practise on the 3rd day of the match. Oram - McCullum combine produced wickets again. Lovely match day for kiwis today
 
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Flem274*

123/5
Oh I'm sure he can, but that isn't the point. Flem doesn't think the advantage Oram has on Styris with the ball makes up for the advantage Vincent/Sinclair/Taylor would have with the bat on Oram. Basically, he's saying:

Oram's bowling > Styris's bowling
Taylor's batting > Oram's batting
Taylor's batting + Styris's bowling > Oram's batting + Oram's bowling*

I disagree with him but it's not a ridiculous comment really.

*NOTE: I disagree with the stated but am pointing out his logic.
That is pretty much right, though Taylor only by a little bit. I'd prefer Fulton not injured and Vincent at 6. Basically, I'm a fan of specialist number 6 batsmen and Oram's form is annoying me atm so I'm starting up the "6 specialist batsmen" again.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Good bowling by Oram. I hope he proves me wrong on this tour because its nice to have an in form allrounder.

And Franklin is a gun. End of story. Martin pfft mediocre.

Bond
Mills/Mason/Gillespie
Franklin
Vettori
Patel/Oram

Would be my bowling attack. Martin and O'Brien as back up along with who misses out of the Mills/Mason/Gillespie spot.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Easy goes it yet Thomassio, he undoubtedly bowled superbly yesterday, but he needs to do it more than once yet.
 

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