***Official*** Kitply Cup (India and Pakistan in Bangladesh)

[ret]

W Riaz 9.2 overs for 86 runs .... 4 more balls and who knows he would have gone for a 100

and comprehensive win for Ind .... it appears as if the youngsters have continued from where they left of in Australia

PS looking at Ind's team composition, they need to play in an additional bowler. I don't like Yuvi and other part-timers bowling often .... the batting looks packed, esp on flat surfaces, and they have some bowlers who are useful with the bat, so why not leverage on that .... playing Gony, who is not a rabbit with the bat, in place of either Yusuf or Raina will be a good move

 

[YankeeAlpha]

Its a real shame for Pakistan that they have so many internal problems and so many players who have become unavailable due to fitness or that are just not picked!! I think in one day cricket especially Pakistan could have a great if not greatest bowling attack at this time..but for whatever reasons it is just not happening. I remember just before Pakistan came to England a few years ago I thought theyd give England a real hard time with a bowling attack available to them with players including Shoaib, Asif, Gul, Rana, Sami and Shabbir..although the last to can be abit errattic they would be useful members of an attack..but once again the curse of Pakistani cricket struck..and were left with the likes of Rao Iftikhar!!!

 

[Salamuddin]

Sharma, Kumar, Chawla and Pathan x2. I reckon we are OK. Not a good bowling attack, but the number is right .

Personally think Sharma , Chawla, Praveen Kumar and Pathan has some potential as an attack.

They need to find another accurate seamer (possibly Gony?) and with Harbhajan return's ot the ODI fold that could make for a fairly decent attack.

Sreesanth is a wickettaker but he is too expensive and I do think he is more suited to tests with his natural bowling length.

Praveen Kumar is the guy that impresses me though - his wrist action is remarkable and with the white ball he could be a very tricky customer to face.

 

[honestbharani]

Great win for India.



And I only watched after Pak were 6 down (Work ) and from whatever I saw, Chawla looked extremely impressive. He seems to be looping his leg breaks a bit more and is getting a little more turn, bounce and dip because of that. Add that to his really good googly and a decent topspinner and a zipper type of delivery that he bowls... We could be in for a treat if he can hold himself in good stead and keep his feet on the ground.

 

[SJS]

Great win for India.

Big win yes. But great ? I dont know. I did not see great batting or bowling by India. The margin of victory just reflects on how bad pakistan were.

The really great thing from Indian side was Chawla's bowling. He was absolutely outstanding. Even the impressive figures of 4-40 that he had dont do justice to an awesome display of quality leg spin bowling.

He has come a long way from the steady bowler whose leg break did not turn much. I do hope, he bowls like this and doesn't change due to the amount of one day cricket he will be playing and the expected onslaughts by the attacking batsmen of the world who will succeed on their day.

He has the potential to be a top class Test leg spinner.

India wont miss Harbhajan if he continues his progress.

 

[honestbharani]

Big win yes. But great ? I dont know. I did not see great batting or bowling by India. The margin of victory just reflects on how bad pakistan were.

The really great thing from Indian side was Chawla's bowling. He was absolutely outstanding. Even the impressive figures of 4-40 that he had dont do justice to an awesome display of quality leg spin bowling.

He has come a long way from the steady bowler whose leg break did not turn much. I do hope, he bowls like this and doesn't change due to the amount of one day cricket he will be playing and the expected onslaughts by the attacking batsmen of the world who will succeed on their day.

He has the potential to be a top class Test leg spinner.

India wont miss Harbhajan if he continues his progress.

Well, by great I just meant a win by a "great" margin...



But yeah, do agree completely with the rest of your post. I was just as impressed as you seem to have been by Chawla yesterday. Must have been obvious from my previous post. Hope he does go on like this.. Touchwood..

 

[Precambrian]

To think about it, the average age of this Indian side is jus 23. And the oldest guy is Sehwag who's is 29.

 

[Precambrian]

Bhajji's exp will be invaluable. Too early to regard Chawla as single spin stock option. Would love too see the prospect of three spinners, Anil, Bhajji and Chawla with Ishant and Praveen/Sree/rp/Pathan on a mud wicket against the Aussies this fall.

 

[SJS]

Bhajji's exp will be invaluable. Too early to regard Chawla as single spin stock option. Would love too see the prospect of three spinners, Anil, Bhajji and Chawla with Ishant and Praveen/Sree/rp/Pathan on a mud wicket against the Aussies this fall.

I dont see what Bhajji has done in recent times for India to miss him so much

 

[SJS]

In the last 35 ODI games for India Bhajji has taken 25 wickets at 55.6 each !

2 wickets in a match has been his best haul in these 35 games. Surely not the fgures of a bowler whose absence should be cause for great dismay.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Gambhir was fantastic as ever.......

 

[SJS]

In the last two years, India have basically played Australia, Pakistan, England and South Africa.

Except for the South Africans, who are not the greatest players of spin bowling, and the West Indians, the new minnows of test cricket, he seems to be having great trouble. Take away the South Africans and one wonders how this guy is still playing foir India in Test matches.

Here is what he has done in Tests since 2006 against these sides.

England :-

- 3 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 48 runs each !

Australia :-
- 3 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 61.2 each !!

Pakistan :-
- 5 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 83.0 each !!!

That is 24 wickets in 11 Tests at 70.6 each with one five wicket haul (5 for 121 in 46 overs at Delhi last year)

Maybe we should let him take rest till the next time we are due to play either the South Africans or the West Indies

I think Harbhajan has played enough on his [past reputation and the glamour attached to the turbanator 'tag'.

India may need to look beyond him and in any event, surely cant think of him as a cert for the Indian side.

 

[biased indian]

Gambhir was fantastic as ever.......

..don't like him still..with all the things he has done so far... don't know why

 

[Manee]

Big win yes. But great ? I dont know. I did not see great batting or bowling by India. The margin of victory just reflects on how bad pakistan were.

The really great thing from Indian side was Chawla's bowling. He was absolutely outstanding. Even the impressive figures of 4-40 that he had dont do justice to an awesome display of quality leg spin bowling.

He has come a long way from the steady bowler whose leg break did not turn much. I do hope, he bowls like this and doesn't change due to the amount of one day cricket he will be playing and the expected onslaughts by the attacking batsmen of the world who will succeed on their day.

He has the potential to be a top class Test leg spinner.

India wont miss Harbhajan if he continues his progress.

Don't take the amount of spin which Chawla extracted at face value though, the pitches in Bangladesh historically aid spin with even Afridi getting a lot of spin.

 

[honestbharani]

Don't take the amount of spin which Chawla extracted at face value though, the pitches in Bangladesh historically aid spin with even Afridi getting a lot of spin.

It is not about the spin though. That always depends quite a bit on the pitch, unless you are Warne or Murali. It is the loop, the dip, the flight, the trajectory etc. And the pace variations..

 

[cowboysfan]

In the last two years, India have basically played Australia, Pakistan, England and South Africa.

Except for the South Africans, who are not the greatest players of spin bowling, and the West Indians, the new minnows of test cricket, he seems to be having great trouble. Take away the South Africans and one wonders how this guy is still playing foir India in Test matches.

Here is what he has done in Tests since 2006 against these sides.

England :-

- 3 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 48 runs each !

Australia :-
- 3 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 61.2 each !!

Pakistan :-
- 5 Tests
- 8 wickets
- at 61.2 each !!!

That is 24 wickets in 11 Tests at 70.6 each with one five wicket haul (5 for 121 in 46 overs at Delhi last year)

Maybe we should let him take rest till the next time we are due to play either the South Africans or the West Indies

I think Harbhajan has played enough on his [past reputation and the glamour attached to the turbanator 'tag'.

India may need to look beyond him and in any event, surely cant think of him as a cert for the Indian side.

those are startling numbers .I think though we need balance in our spin attack too(test matches).We cant include two leg spinners in the test matches in kumble and chawla(or can we?).If Harbhajan is not cutting it then we need a better off-spinner but I dont know of anyone who is even as good as harbhajan-maybe you can shed some light on that.

 

[SJS]

those are startling numbers .I think though we need balance in our spin attack too(test matches).We cant include two leg spinners in the test matches in kumble and chawla(or can we?).If Harbhajan is not cutting it then we need a better off-spinner but I dont know of anyone who is even as good as harbhajan-maybe you can shed some light on that.

The fat guy. He is not as good as Harbhajan, he is better (as a pure off spinner) every one agrees with that. He does not bowl the doosra and he does not look like a cricketer

 

[jeevan]

those are startling numbers .I think though we need balance in our spin attack too(test matches).We cant include two leg spinners in the test matches in kumble and chawla(or can we?).If Harbhajan is not cutting it then we need a better off-spinner but I dont know of anyone who is even as good as harbhajan-maybe you can shed some light on that.

Sehwag since his return to tests, as an offie:
filtered 5 6 74.5 10 197 10 3/12 4/30 19.70 2.63 44.9 0 0

Half of then vs Australia in Australia. Some of his wickets have been absolutely crucial.

Not saying that he's the solution to India's spin problems, but not just his stats - he has appeared to be someone who should bowl more regularly, especially if we are groping for off-spinning options.

Kumble & Chawla: neither of them get big turn. Should factor in the thinking of team composition as both end up being ineffective some times (due to this?) and would be disastrous if that coincided in the same test match.

 

[Precambrian]

He played Australians in Australia, where all other spinners also suffered. And regarding Pakistan series, played on dull wickets where even Anil Kumble had to resort to medium pace to get some purchase. He did well against South Africans last time, even was the pick among the spin duo.

 

[Precambrian]

Unless one of the two frontline spinners get injured, i don't see Chawla playing against Aussies this fall. India should resort to preparing spin den, ICC diktat or not. The only danger i foresee i Clarke, yep, Michael.