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**Official** England in the West Indies 2017

Burner

Burner

International Regular
It must be hard being an umpire when he's playing. Everytime he walks past you, you miss the next 5 overs.
 
theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Roy's opening partner for the ODIs decided right here imo, Bairstow v Billings.

Billings out, so Bairstow gets a score and he should be in really.
 
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Burner

Burner

International Regular
Just checked his stats. Guy has spectacular stats as a bowler. 125 wickets in 41 innings at an avg of 24.

I bet most of those wickets are of frustrated batsmen who realize that they can no longer score runs with the straight drive. Cornwall so big.
 
Howe_zat

Howe_zat

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Yeah as much a batsman as bowler, with those figures in West Indies domestic cricket. They have almost no batsmen who average higher 30 and specialist finger spinners generally take their wickets in the teens. Cornwall has one of only four list A hundreds in the entire top seven.

Edit: Nikita Miller's domestic season averages are usually used for this fact - since 2009 they are 12, 10, 10, 8, 25, 14, 16, 13
 
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theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
england gonna lose looks like. 7 down and ball injured. Our spin bowling looking more and more terrible by the day. I've been watching a bit and their spinners are better than ours. We've got moeen who never takes wickets even in favourable conditions, and rashid with 3 shorts balls an over. Their spinners more control and more variation. It's getting embarrassing. The batting hasn't been much better tbh.
 
Howe_zat

Howe_zat

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Card suggests it's a dog's ear of a pitch which doesn't reflect well on our spin bowling, no. Rashid at least making a fist of things with the bat, sent in ahead of Plunkett which is a bit different in this format.

edit: highlights shows two drops. One that could have ended the big 6th wicket stand, from Moeen, who is having a very bad day. Other a curious woodlouse impression.
 
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Beamer

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Daemon said:
That's got a lot to do with the WI domestic scene being very spin friendly
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His domestic stats are skewed by bad pitches and some mediocre batsmen, but he has taken 5 wicket hauls against a close to full strength Indian touring team and he was the top wicket taker on the A tour to Sri Lanka too. The guy should be in the team, he's a top cricketer, there's no doubt at all. However, he's also enormous as you have pointed out and a potential liability in the field. I would select him, but our selectors have gone down the route of getting him a dietician etc.
 
cnerd123

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Beamer said:
His domestic stats are skewed by bad pitches and some mediocre batsmen, but he has taken 5 wicket hauls against a close to full strength Indian touring team and he was the top wicket taker on the A tour to Sri Lanka too. The guy should be in the team, he's a top cricketer, there's no doubt at all. However, he's also enormous as you have pointed out and a potential liability in the field. I would select him, but our selectors have gone down the route of getting him a dietician etc.
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Liability? The guy can field at first and second slip simultaneously.
 
theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Last few spots for the Champions Trophy likely to be decided on this trip for England.

Definites imo - Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Stokes, Buttler, Ali, Woakes, Willey, Rashid

Leaves 4 spots.


Fast bowler - Wood (if fit)
Spare bat/wk - Bairstow/Billings
Spare fast bowler - Plunkett/Topley/Ball/Finn
14th man - Depends on who they want for balance.


England are a decent odi team these days but 4-1 for Windies to win the series seems a good bet. Windies players have just played a 50 over comp so they should be in good knick. Windies should be more adept on the likely slow turners, Rashid and Ali are average and low on confidence. Maybe a little lack of motivation/complacency in the batting knowing that the batting spots are basically settled for champions trophy + this feels like a pointless series propped in between the off and on season so players are probably a little underprepared. England's bowling as a whole is even weaker than it normally is- No Willey to take new ball wickets. Buttler lacking form.
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
Really looking forward to Tom Curran playing. He bowled well in Sri Lanka on the whole, and is obviously a solid prospect.
 
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theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Gabriel is the bowler I'd least like to face in international cricket. Physically intimidating and hurls them down at 150km/h.
 
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