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Lou Vincent - one more shot

Howsie

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Contracts don't seem to mean a lot these days | Stuff.co.nz

The ICL competition has fallen over, and with the money drying up elsewhere, suddenly another stint in the Black Caps looks mighty inviting for Lou.

What Vincent did was even sillier than Craig McMillan begging to be excused his New Zealand Cricket contract for "family and health" reasons, then rushing off to play big money cricket exhibitions matches in Hong Kong and India
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Ah, someone that doesn't just here "I've got depression, I've got to go". He bet on the wrong horse, it's his fault.
 
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Prince EWS said:
I don't see why not; I don't have a degree in psychology either but I'd think a change fo scenery and a fresh start somewhere else could be a good thing.
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Not to mention lower pressure playing for some no-name club which probably is going to die soon, short games, etc.

Depression's a funny beast and speculation about why Vincent played ICL instead of taking a break is somewhat pointless without knowing the underlying reasons for it. Who knows? Maybe it was just for the filthy cash. Or maybe it wasn't.

Lest anyone forget, Lou chose a very risky road to throw away what he had at Adelaide, with a state spot (at least) beckoning. Why? Because he wanted to play for NZ. Remember he was pretty passionate about it at the time.
 
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Lou Vincent said in an interview that cricket is one of his only real talents, therefore in my mind the move to the ICL was logical. He had depression but he also needed a job.

The ICL was a prank competition, Vincent would never have been in any danger for his spot, unlike NZ. That uncertainty would have been a monster to deal with.

Howsie, long term diabetes is a lot different to being under attack from your own mind.
 
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Flem274* said:
Lou Vincent said in an interview that cricket is one of his only real talents, therefore in my mind the move to the ICL was logical. He had depression but he also needed a job.
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Howsie seems to think you don't need money to live life, and if that was the case I have no doubt Vincent would have taken a break from all cricket.
 
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Howsie said:
Pretty sure if I was diagnosed with depression I wouldn't quit my job to move overseas to work tbh.
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A clean break for green pastures would have held an attraction like Pews says, but what he chose to do (uproot life, family for split time in India and UK) surely wouldn't have had a stress-reducing affect. I think in the linked article he pretty much admits that going to the ICL probably wasn't the best idea and perhaps his decision making hasn't been the best.

"It was up and down for me, having just fought the demons of playing in New Zealand. I came straight into a new environment but didn't have the hunger for cricket and my performances were poor. They [the organisers] ended up lying to us quite a bit too about the whole payment thing and it's cost a lot of guys money.

"It's sad when you enter any agreement and get let down like that. It was stressful. But in terms of the cricket progression it didn't really faze me. When it fell over I was like 'oh well, I'm not that interested'. I've rebuilt my attitude now. Unfortunately it takes massive setbacks in life to grow up.

"The second season of ICL went even worse for me," says Vincent. "That's when I decided to get away from professional cricket and concentrate on my health and family."
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Vincent always did come across as a little immature in the media tbh. Subsequent talk about depression wasn't the biggest surprise in the world and the team environment can't have been the best at the time either (or rather the coach, management, selectors).

Howsie, if you want to see his return as a cynical chance at raking in a bit more cash now that Plan A has fallen through then that's up to you, but personally am happy to take what he says at face value and wish him all the best.
 
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Howsie

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Flem274* said:
Lou Vincent said in an interview that cricket is one of his only real talents, therefore in my mind the move to the ICL was logical. He had depression but he also needed a job.

The ICL was a prank competition, Vincent would never have been in any danger for his spot, unlike NZ. That uncertainty would have been a monster to deal with.

Howsie, long term diabetes is a lot different to being under attack from your own mind.
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Yeah I just logged onto depression.com and apparently you guys are right, diabetes and depression are completely different things.
 
Howsie

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straw man said:
A clean break for green pastures would have held an attraction like Pews says, but what he chose to do (uproot life, family for split time in India and UK) surely wouldn't have had a stress-reducing affect. I think in the linked article he pretty much admits that going to the ICL probably wasn't the best idea and perhaps his decision making hasn't been the best.



Vincent always did come across as a little immature in the media tbh. Subsequent talk about depression wasn't the biggest surprise in the world and the team environment can't have been the best at the time either (or rather the coach, management, selectors).

Howsie, if you want to see his return as a cynical chance at raking in a bit more cash now that Plan A has fallen through then that's up to you, but personally am happy to take what he says at face value and wish him all the best.
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That's pretty much how I see it tbh, people may see it as sad but what are you going to do about it.
 
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