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[TheJediBrah]

Bump.

Been a lot of discussion about this recently. I've been swayed a it by some arguments. Still don't think it would be worth the trouble it would cause but good points being made on both sides

 

[Coronis]

Bump.

Been a lot of discussion about this recently. I've been swayed a it by some arguments. Still don't think it would be worth the trouble it would cause but good points being made on both sides

What I don’t like is the seemingly double standard in sports (not just cricket) of concussion subs being allowed but not other injuries.

 

[TheJediBrah]

What I don’t like is the seemingly double standard in sports (not just cricket) of concussion subs being allowed but not other injuries.

Makes sense as a safety issue though. Your more likely to play through a concussion and risk more serious injury/death than other injuries

 

[Coronis]

Makes sense as a safety issue though. Your more likely to play through a concussion and risk more serious injury/death than other injuries

Oh I completely understand why it was implemented but it still feels you know, off.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Oh I completely understand why it was implemented but it still feels you know, off.

I figure it's a case of "we don't really want subs at all, but legally we will be ****ed if someone concussed keeps playing and can end up suing us"

 

[ataraxia]

I figure it's a case of "we don't really want subs at all, but legally we will be ****ed if someone concussed keeps playing and can end up suing us"

It also deters trying to concuss the opposition which is always nice.

 

[Shady Slim]

bad idea with the exception of concussions imho, totally against the ethos of test cricket and especially a long series
need look no further than stokes saying he'd have played the fifth test if he could cark it and get substituted if need be

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Injuries happens and that makes the test even harder.

It’s like war. One of your men down, pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Improves morale.

People had similar feelings about runners in the game when Inzi was abusing it.

 

[Molehill]

At what point will the concussion rule start getting abused though (like the runner did)? If Woakes had said he'd got a bit of a headache, he'd have been allowed a sub. Leach did get one after a similar boundary diving incident (I can't remember what other injuries he had, if any).

 

[GIMH]

If Woakes had said he'd got a bit of a headache, he'd have been allowed a sub.

are you sure about this

 

[Molehill]

are you sure about this

I was probably being slightly facetious, but I found this from the Leach incident.

However, after subsequent examination from the ECB medical team, the decision was taken to withdraw him from the match. "Jack Leach has symptoms of concussion following his head injury whilst fielding," read an ECB statement. "As per concussion guidelines, he has been withdrawn from this Test."

It strikes me that no independent doctor made this decision, it was entirely on the ECB.

Another interesting quote was this:

Brendon McCullum, England's new Test coach, had made a point of asking players to keep chasing every ball before this Test. "Brendon said one basic thing for his mindset is: you chase every ball to the boundary as hard as you can until it's at the boundary edge," Stuart Broad said on Tuesday. "That is just a mindset of positivity, all the time - that you are going to give everything to this game."

Eng v NZ 2022 - Jack Leach withdrawn from Test after suffering concussion symptoms during fielding incident | ESPNcricinfo

 

[GIMH]

Fair enough, but a bit of a headache isn't the same as concussion symptoms

 

[Migara]

No.