Lehmann left out of Australian touring squad

[Richard]

Personally I was surprised he wasn't in the side for the last 10 years.
Then again - he might not be quite as good a player as he is had he done so.

 

[Craig]

why on earth not? if the WI selectors back in the 80s had not picked marshall and picked any of the bowlers on the bench, i still wouldnt be surprised if they had a similar amount of success, because the quality of players playing domestic cricket was extremely high. fact is that with the standard of australian domestic cricket and the coaching, almost anyone who is successful in domestic cricket, invariably ends up being successful in tests. what i cant stand is that australian selectors manage to pick the ones that are so obviously not going to be successful in test cricket over ones that are so obviously are.

Well I guess we are not all perfect then.

did it not occur to you that there were far better options, and bracken never ever ever looked like being test class? the selection of bracken was understandable because, he at least looked capable, but the non selection of kasparowicz for that series and for god knows how long before that despite his consistent performances is simply ludicrous.

Kasprowicz aside, like who else?

 

[tooextracool]

Kasprowicz aside, like who else?

so your telling me that theres isnt a better bowler than bracken in all of australian domestic cricket?
if thats the case, then thats really quite sad indeed.

 

[Richard]

There are one or two who are obviously better, but the fact that Williams was selected at a similar time should tell you that there aren't an enormous number better, no.

 

[tooextracool]

williams wasnt as bad as bracken, his selection was some what understandable. at least he looked somewhat test class at melbourne. bracken was just appalling.

 

[age_master]

williams is the worst bolwer to play for test cricket for Australia ever (than hauritz came along....)

 

[Mister Wright]

williams is the worst bolwer to play for test cricket for Australia ever (than hauritz came along....)

That's being a bit kind to Peter McIntyre, Shaun Young & Paul Wilson.

 

[Craig]

so your telling me that theres isnt a better bowler than bracken in all of australian domestic cricket?
if thats the case, then thats really quite sad indeed.

Try answering my question buddy.

 

[chaminda_00]

That's being a bit kind to Peter McIntyre, Shaun Young & Paul Wilson.

Don't forget Scott Muller he would have to be the worst in recent times. Atleast the other three had half decent FC records

 

[Mister Wright]

Don't forget Scott Muller he would have to be the worst in recent times. Atleast the other three had half decent FC records

Scott Muller had a very good FC record & performed well in his two tests. His performances have been overshadowed by Warne's low act.

 

[vic_orthdox]

i read somewhere that muller retired from first class cricket, then made a comeback and it was after this that he made his test debut. and then went on to disappear back into obscurity. is that right?

and i reckon he has copped a raw deal, he didn't do too much wrong in his match/es for aus.

 

[Mister Wright]

i read somewhere that muller retired from first class cricket, then made a comeback and it was after this that he made his test debut. and then went on to disappear back into obscurity. is that right?

and i reckon he has copped a raw deal, he didn't do too much wrong in his match/es for aus.

He retired when he was made 12th man for Queensland during the 1997 (I think) shield final where we beat W.A. in Perth.

He then returned the next season or the season after at the insistance of the selectors, and then impressed Mark Taylor (which is rare for a Qlder) and toured Zimbabwe and later made his test debut against Pakistan in Brisbane.

 

[Top_Cat]

That's being a bit kind to Peter McIntyre, Shaun Young & Paul Wilson.

Hey man, don't knock Blocker. He was injured after bowling about 10 overs in his Test debut, remember? He was a very decent ODI bowler for a couple of seasons.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Scott Muller had a very good FC record & performed well in his two tests. His performances have been overshadowed by Warne's low act.

Except it wasn't Warne who said it...

 

[Richard]

No, it was "John" the cameraman and it got attributed to Warne.
Which gave the whole thing a massive publicity stunt and caused people to say "Muller = worst player ever to play for Australia" when he was simply merely ordinary like so many others.

 

[Richard]

That's being a bit kind to Peter McIntyre, Shaun Young & Paul Wilson.

So Paul Wilson didn't deserve his selection?
I only ever saw him bowl once and that was when he was an old man, but still... he looked like he'd been a very fine bowler once.

 

[Mister Wright]

Except it wasn't Warne who said it...

Yes it was.

How many other times have you ever heard a cameraman say something on a live broadcast of any sport let alone cricket?

 

[tooextracool]

williams is the worst bolwer to play for test cricket for Australia ever (than hauritz came along....)

no hes not, he was poor yes, but he certainly wasnt anywhere close to being the worst.

 

[tooextracool]

Try answering my question buddy.

i would come up with specific names, had i been watching aussie domestic cricket. but im fairly sure that they are better bowlers than bracken in the domestic cricket of any test playing country.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

i would come up with specific names, had i been watching aussie domestic cricket. but im fairly sure that they are better bowlers than bracken in the domestic cricket of any test playing country.

Funny that there are worse bowlers than Bracken playing international cricket then.