Joel Garner vs Wasim Akram

[Prince EWS]

I'm faster than you.

Garner is faster than both of us.

For his batting.

 

[Coronis]

Is Garner like the cricket version of Shaq? Just blessed with an insane physical traits that makes them great even with very less effort compared to others.

I don’t recall Garner ever being criticised for his lack of effort.

He had less variation than even McGrath and Ambrose but his bounce was so high and so awkward most of the time and his accuracy was every bit compareable to them, and that just made him unplayable in ways Wasim was not, in my opinion.

Curious as to the source of this?

 

[sayon basak]

Curious as to the source of this?

Wouldn't say less, but all of Ambrose, Garner and McGrath aren't known as deceptive bowlers like Wasim.

 

[DrWolverine]

Wouldn't say less, but all of Ambrose, Garner and McGrath aren't known as deceptive bowlers like Wasim.

I have often read and heard that McGrath, Ambrose and Garner are similar kind of bowlers.

 

[BazBall21]

Garner had fewer explosive spells than Ambrose because he was a bit slower

 

[DrWolverine]

Garner had fewer explosive spells than Ambrose because he was a bit slower

Like post injury Ambrose?

 

[kyear2]

Like post injury Ambrose?

He was faster than that.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Garners strike rate is better than Ambrose’s btw

 

[kyear2]

Garners strike rate is better than Ambrose’s btw

One of the reasons I'm convinced that Marshall and McGrath would be the absolutely perfect opening partnership, is because how well Maco and Big Bird did. The contrast of the pace, swing and skiddy bounce to the height, accuracy, bounce and seam would be a handful.

 

[Johan]

Curious as to the source of this?

My eyes

 

[Coronis]

My eyes

You watched Garner live? I can’t imagine you being that old. Even old enough to see Ambrose seems a bit of a stretch

 

[Johan]

You watched Garner live? I can’t imagine you being that old. Even old enough to see Ambrose seems a bit of a stretch

Plenty of footage of Garner and he just doesn't seem to move it much (if at all), ofcourse haven't watched Garner live I'm not a grandpa, lol have watched Ambrose but was young at the time

 

[kyear2]

Plenty of footage of Garner and he just doesn't seem to move it much (if at all), ofcourse haven't watched Garner live I'm not a grandpa, lol have watched Ambrose but was young at the time

Don't have to be a grandpa to have watched Garner

 

[subshakerz]

One of the reasons I'm convinced that Marshall and McGrath would be the absolutely perfect opening partnership, is because how well Maco and Big Bird did. The contrast of the pace, swing and skiddy bounce to the height, accuracy, bounce and seam would be a handful.

Hadlee would be a good shout-out with his seam and outswing combo but I give McGrath the edge due to the height factor.

 

[subshakerz]

Garner doesn't have a large enough career sample or me and I think a modern bowler needs the 300 wicket margin to be classified ATG.

 

[kyear2]

Garner doesn't have a large enough career sample or me and I think a modern bowler needs the 300 wicket margin to be classified ATG.

Class not numbers.

 

[Johan]

Don't have to be a grandpa to have watched Garner

near grandpa surely

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Akram. Garner’s career length doesn’t quite compare up.

 

[Coronis]

near grandpa surely

Assuming you have proper memories of him playing tests - I would say you can properly remember and judge a sportsperson when you’re closer to 10 than 5… before that you might have vague memories.

So using 7-8 as a starting point you’d need to be 44-45 to properly remember the end of his career (where he was opening the bowling and near his best tbf)

Definitely possible grandpa territory. My parents and maternal grandparents weren’t grandparents at that age, but my paternal grandparents were.

 

[kyear2]

Assuming you have proper memories of him playing tests - I would say you can properly remember and judge a sportsperson when you’re closer to 10 than 5… before that you might have vague memories.

So using 7-8 as a starting point you’d need to be 44-45 to properly remember the end of his career (where he was opening the bowling and near his best tbf)

Definitely possible grandpa territory. My parents and maternal grandparents weren’t grandparents at that age, but my paternal grandparents were.

And I'm over that and not a grandparent ()