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James Anderson vs Ken Barrington
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Adorable Asshole
International Regular
How was Barrington as a fielder?
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International Captain
Post war English player rankings
1. Hutton
2. Botham
3. Trueman
4. Anderson
5. Barrington
Not sure where Laker and Knott fit into this
1. Hutton
2. Botham
3. Trueman
4. Anderson
5. Barrington
Not sure where Laker and Knott fit into this
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
People are still riding Pietersen’s ****?
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Prehaps for entertainment but not for batting ability/effectiveness
Pretty good in the slips or outfield. Probably not as outstanding compared with his peers as Anderson in his younger days.
BazBall21
International Captain
Barrington had a 9.5 year career and averaged 58
In Boycott's best 9.5 year career period (not including the years of self-exile), he averaged 59 and shared the distinction of averaging even more overseas. And while Boycott is marked down heavily for his rigid survival tempo, Barrington wasn't an attacking player either and was also dropped once for slow scoring. Geoff has opener tax too. Boycott over Barrington isn't irrational.
In Boycott's best 9.5 year career period (not including the years of self-exile), he averaged 59 and shared the distinction of averaging even more overseas. And while Boycott is marked down heavily for his rigid survival tempo, Barrington wasn't an attacking player either and was also dropped once for slow scoring. Geoff has opener tax too. Boycott over Barrington isn't irrational.
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International Captain
How many tests did boycott play during that period?
BazBall21
International Captain
50. Missed quite a few because of illness/injury.
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So like 35 less tests than Barrington. Not really close but I might be in the minority
BazBall21
International Captain
I'm not saying Boycott is better. But I don't think it's an irrational opinion. Would say Boycott performed better against the best team they both faced also; which extends into the nine tests Boycott played against the juggernaut when he was forty.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Mhm. Its not an irrational opinion, just one I don’t personally share. Similar to Viv and Barrington
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I guess I can see the argument for Boycott if you really value openers. Can’t really any reason other than strike rate for Pietersen/Root over Barrington
ezcellence in a broader range of condutions
iconic match winning innings
peer rating
it’s a very niche stats oriented view without context to rate Barrington higher than Root or Pietersen.
Line and Length
International Coach
Barrington's solid defence led to the view that he was too slow when batting. However, it's worth remembering he brought up 4 of his Test centuries with a six and, in the 5th Test of the '65/66 Ashes series played in Melbourne, he scored a century off 122 balls. As a young player he was a free scoring attacking player but, after being dropped, he opened his stance and became a more defensive leg side player. He may not have played a lot of match winning innings but he had a reputation for saving matches. A lot of his slow scoring could be attributed to opponents bowling wide of Barrington's off stump. This was a two-fold tactic. It restricted his leg-side scoring and was tempting him to play uncharacteristic shots.
Barrington's batting improved with the quality of the opposition; he averaged 39.87 in the County Championship 45.63 in first-class cricket 58.67 in Test cricket and 63.96 against Australia. Of players with a completed career, only Don Bradman with his average of 99.94 made more than Barrington's 6,806 Test runs at a higher average.
Unlike Anderson, Barrington had other strings to his bow. He took 273 wickets @ 32.6 in first class cricket, including 29 Test wickets. He even took the gloves as a stand-in 'keeper at Test level.
BTW how come this become a Barrington v Boycott (and Pietersen) discussion in a James Anderson v Ken Barrington discussion.
Footnote: In case CW members hadn't guessed, I'm an unabashed Barrington fan.
Barrington's batting improved with the quality of the opposition; he averaged 39.87 in the County Championship 45.63 in first-class cricket 58.67 in Test cricket and 63.96 against Australia. Of players with a completed career, only Don Bradman with his average of 99.94 made more than Barrington's 6,806 Test runs at a higher average.
Unlike Anderson, Barrington had other strings to his bow. He took 273 wickets @ 32.6 in first class cricket, including 29 Test wickets. He even took the gloves as a stand-in 'keeper at Test level.
BTW how come this become a Barrington v Boycott (and Pietersen) discussion in a James Anderson v Ken Barrington discussion.
Footnote: In case CW members hadn't guessed, I'm an unabashed Barrington fan.
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