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Jacques Kallis vs Allan Border

Who was the greater test batsman?

  • Jacques Kallis

    Votes: 26 49.1%
  • Allan Border

    Votes: 27 50.9%

  • Total voters
    53

BazBall21

International Regular
doesnt everyone have an under 40 blip against one or two nations (rxcept tendulkar).? its not really as big a thing as people like to make out as looking at particular opposition means your sample size is reduced so it could just be a quirk that would have corrected with more games.
Tbh the man Kallis is being compared to doesn't overseas
 

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
Kallis averages a good 5 points higher than Border with a similar body of work. Should count to something.
 

BazBall21

International Regular
Border is the only one to score 450+ runs against WI in a series in the 80s IIRC.
He was a warrior on that tour. Gooch still better against WI though imo. Shame Amarnath had that total shocker at home to them or he would be in the conversation too.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Crowe did very well, but Gooch's 1981 tour compared to Crowe's 1985 tour tips it imo.
Crowe scored 188 in the Windies as a 22/23 year old. Then in 1986/7 the Windies toured NZ. Crowe's scores were 3, 119 (1st test draw), 10, 104 (2nd test loss), and 83, 9 not out (3rd test win).
 

BazBall21

International Regular
Crowe scored 188 in the Windies as a 22/23 year old. Then in 1986/7 the Windies toured NZ. Crowe's scores were 3, 119 (1st test draw), 10, 104 (2nd test loss), and 83, 9 not out (3rd test win).
Gooch had the age advantage overseas yes, but hundreds in Jamaica and Barbados against that attack from an opener is special. Even if it was on one of the slower decks, Crowe's 188 was a great innings, but his tour was one to forget other than that. Excellent against peak Marshall in 1986/87.
 

BazBall21

International Regular
It's the only thing I can think of in Kallis' favour, but it's a significant enough difference
Yeah. Border has the more balanced record in terms of both opponents and conditions. He also had the weaker team and the tougher batting era. He probably edges it against quality bowling. I am not a big peer/media ratings guy but Border does also edge Kallis there. All Kallis really has is that superior average, but the gap is big enough for me to give the comparison some time of the day.
 

subshakerz

International Coach
doesnt everyone have an under 40 blip against one or two nations (rxcept tendulkar).? its not really as big a thing as people like to make out as looking at particular opposition means your sample size is reduced so it could just be a quirk that would have corrected with more games.
Kallis played 15 games in England though.
 

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