IYO, how much of the australian team knew of/participated in the sandpaper scandal

[Dendarii]

I didn't like how everyone was ****ting on the Aussies for that offence. It's like the UFC, a lot of people take performance enhancing drugs, but the only ones who get defamed are the ones who get caught.

That had a lot to do with Australia's claim that they don't "cross the line" in the wake of the Warner/De Kock incident. If you're putting yourself forward as some sort of paragon then people are going to stick it to you if it turns out that you're not so squeaky clean.

 

[GIMH]

They all knew and as I've conclusively proven before it started in the 17-18 Ashes. FACT.

 

[Line and Length]

Probably the entire team knew, but who cares, teams have tried to tamper the ball in some way or the other.

Everyone wants that slight advantage in sports which is in the grey area, like not walking after nicking the ball, wasting time when trying to save the game(that's blatant cheating too btw) or whatever. I didn't like how everyone was ****ting on the Aussies for that offence. It's like the UFC, a lot of people take performance enhancing drugs, but the only ones who get defamed are the ones who get caught.

That's an entirely different issue and, while poor sportsmanship when blatantly obvious, is hardly cheating. This is an umpire's decision - with or without the aid of DRS - and isn't in the same ballpark as ball tampering.

 

[Tec15]

Come on, they all knew what was going on. The idea that any of the bowlers didn't know is just .

 

[TheJediBrah]

That's an entirely different issue and, while poor sportsmanship when blatantly obvious, is hardly cheating. This is an umpire's decision - with or without the aid of DRS - and isn't in the same ballpark as ball tampering.

Until you are allowed to refuse to leave when the umpire gives you out incorrectly, any suggestion that a batsman is obligated to walk when given a reprieve due to poor umpiring is ludicrous

 

[Lillian Thomson]

No real difference if you're bringing the umpires into it. It's up to the umpires to spot the nick, or the sandpaper, if they don't it's happy days.

 

[Gob]

I think the bowlers may have known about Davey trying to get the balls roughed up lol but doubt they were aware of the sand paper plot. That is down right stupid thing to attempt in a test match with like 30 cameras and some one intelligent like Cumm would have pointed that out to Davey and his minion

Then again they may have thought they could get away with it since the horney Supersport Park camera men are always looking for hot chick's in the crowds and lot less attention on what happens in the middle

 

[social]

Didn’t the umpires examine the ball & conclude that its condition hadn’t been altered?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Didn’t the umpires examine the ball & conclude that its condition hadn’t been altered?

Total circus. Most brazen and careless attempt at ball tampering and it didn't even work.

 

[PakhuisTillite]

Warner has cleaned up his act but lets face it the guy was a complete douche for the first 10 years of his career. He's been used as an attack dog to wage the mental breakdown tactic which previous Aussie captains had created. He got some of it back but I firmly believe that he lit the fire which created the storm of ugliness that went down. He's a sociopath, a bad seed. There are many of them in pro sports.