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Is Kane Williamson an ATG Test Batsman?

is Kane Williamson an ATG Test Batsman?

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Daemon

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honestbharani said:
Interesting. But I will have them both as ATGs. :)
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I see them both as insanely successful at home, (which is quite underrated), with a smattering of good games overseas amidst some admittedly poor performances. Both didn’t have a fair shot at changing this for reasons not entirely in their control. With KW it’s a lack of tests for NZ, with Ashwin it’s selection policies, and a weak batting lineup that needed the presence of Jadeja.
 
Mike5181

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What's coming up for Williamson:

nov 25 - 3 tests west indies (h) (H: 72.6)(a: 51.33)
may 26 - 1 test Ireland (a) (N/A)
Jun 26 - 3 tests England (a) (h: 54.4)(a: 25.50)
nov 26 - 2 tests india (h) (h: 38.14)(a: 33.50)
dec 26 - 4 tests Australia (a) (h: 27.44)(a: 42.84)
jan 27 - 2 tests sri lanka (h) (h: 114)(a: 29.54)
mar 27 - 2 tests Pakistan (a) (h: 54) (a:77.00)

I think if he smashes England away and Australia away next year it'd give him a lot more credibility. His record against South Africa away (21.2) is bad but he's played 4 tests there and the last was 2016, so I'd be fine almost throwing that out tbh. Playing well at home against India as well to push his overall to 40+ against them. But away vs. Sri Lanka, South Africa, India will always be poor unless he keeps going past this schedule.
 
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Thala_0710

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Mike5181 said:
What's coming up for Williamson:

nov 25 - 3 tests west indies (h) (H: 72.6)(a: 51.33)
may 26 - 1 test Ireland (a) (N/A)
Jun 26 - 3 tests England (a) (h: 54.4)(a: 25.50)
nov 26 - 2 tests india (h) (h: 38.14)(a: 33.50)
dec 26 - 3 tests Australia (a) (h: 27.44)(a: 42.84)
jan 27 - 2 tests sri lanka (h) (h: 114)(a: 29.54)
mar 27 - 2 tests Pakistan (a) (h: 54) (a:77.00)

I think if he smashes England away and Australia away next year it'd give him a lot more credibility. His record against South Africa away (21.2) is bad but he's played 4 tests there and the last was 2016, so I'd be fine almost throwing that out tbh. Playing well at home against India as well to push his overall to 40+ against them. But away vs. Sri Lanka, South Africa, India will always be poor.
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His away avg going down in Wi, up in Eng, and down in Aus would be my guess. And he'll probably be around his avg vs Ind at home.
 
DrWolverine

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Kane Williamson

in Ind : Avg of 33 in 8 Tests.
in SL : Avg of 29 in 6 Tests.

in SA : Avg of 21 in 4 Tests.
in Eng : Avg of 30 in 8 Tests.
in Aus : Avg of 42 in 7 Tests.

in Pak : Avg of 138 in 2 Tests
in Zim : Avg of 97 in 3 Tests
in Ban : Avg of 55 in 4 Tests
in WI : Avg of 51 in 5 Tests
in UAE : Avg of 64 in 6 Tests
 
Mike5181

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Thala_0710 said:
His away avg going down in Wi, up in Eng, and down in Aus would be my guess. And he'll probably be around his avg vs Ind at home.
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It's home tests against West Indies, not away. I would be surprised if his away record against England doesn't improve quite a bit looking at what he's doing in county cricket. Australia's attack will be getting on by late '26. Starc nearly 37, Boland 37, Hazlewood 35, Lyon 39.
 
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Mike5181 said:
What's coming up for Williamson:

nov 25 - 3 tests west indies (h) (H: 72.6)(a: 51.33)
may 26 - 1 test Ireland (a) (N/A)
Jun 26 - 3 tests England (a) (h: 54.4)(a: 25.50)
nov 26 - 2 tests india (h) (h: 38.14)(a: 33.50)
dec 26 - 3 tests Australia (a) (h: 27.44)(a: 42.84)
jan 27 - 2 tests sri lanka (h) (h: 114)(a: 29.54)
mar 27 - 2 tests Pakistan (a) (h: 54) (a:77.00)

I think if he smashes England away and Australia away next year it'd give him a lot more credibility. His record against South Africa away (21.2) is bad but he's played 4 tests there and the last was 2016, so I'd be fine almost throwing that out tbh. Playing well at home against India as well to push his overall to 40+ against them. But away vs. Sri Lanka, South Africa, India will always be poor unless he keeps going past this schedule.
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4 in Australia
 
HeathDavisSpeed

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I really do wonder what Williamson has done to attract such interest in whether he's in one tier or another. There really are some immovable opinions on such an unimportant contrivance.

A fact is that he's unparalleled as a batsman for New Zealand. And yes, I include Martin Crowe in that (what a parlous record in India etc.) and this sort of regular thread is just a load of nitpicking.

I don't even like these overpaid, oversexed and over here damn batsmen so curse you all for unleashing my keyboard in defence of one of these feckless fainéants.
 
Coronis

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HeathDavisSpeed said:
I really do wonder what Williamson has done to attract such interest in whether he's in one tier or another. There really are some immovable opinions on such an unimportant contrivance.

A fact is that he's unparalleled as a batsman for New Zealand. And yes, I include Martin Crowe in that (what a parlous record in India etc.) and this sort of regular thread is just a load of nitpicking.

I don't even like these overpaid, oversexed and over here damn batsmen so curse you all for unleashing my keyboard in defence of one of these feckless fainéants.
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Is that a yes or no :ph34r:
 
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