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Is imran overated as bowler
- Thread starter govinda indian fan
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subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Why?
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hadlee's advantages:
- Lone gun and took.enormous burden and almost singlehandedly took NZ to top tier status
- No help of scoreboard pressure to get wickets
- Roughly just as cunning and calculating as McGrath
- Likely more difficult to face in his bowling friendly conditions
- Better than McGrath in India, and McGrath was a dud in Pak and SL
- Faced generally better quality lineups including 70s Aus and 80s WI
- Doesn't have a sore spot like McGrath against SA
- In terms of skillset, had control of the outswingers and not just seam
DrWolverine
International Regular
1. His record against the second best team of his era - vs SA : Avg of 27.3 in 17 Tests.
2. One 5-Fer in 19 Tests in Asia. I do not think he can take the pitch out of the equation like Maco or Steyn
3. Average of 31 in Pak(5 Tests) and 29 in SL in 4 Tests.
Richard Hadlee has some flaws too but I rate him higher because he was a lone gun and also had to provide batting support as well
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
McGraths advantages:
- More spread out success across countries
- Batting era success
- Tendulkar and Lara advantages
- Height and bounce
- Undisputed best of the 2000s decade
- Massive peer rating
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govinda indian fan
International Debutant
Dude iam not baised indian fan who hates everything Pakistani. I love and respect younis wasim inzi and even imran who i rate as 2nd greatest all rounder behind sobers. I was not saying imran was some ishant sharma. He is atg but has some astrix on his record as bowler. To clear your doubt imran is thousand times a bowler then kapil was and kapil is not fit to tie imran shoelaces
govinda indian fan
International Debutant
Ok iam only one who thinks imran is overrated. Sorry imran fans for questioning your idol. I still do belive wasim donald and holding>imran
DrWolverine
International Regular
Akram? No
Donald & Holding? Yes
IMO
Donald & Holding? Yes
IMO
Johan
International Coach
Garner or Imran?
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
I always try to be
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
I would say they were similar, style and substance. One played in a more difficult era and less helpful pitches.so McGrath easily no. 2 for me
Neither quite had Marshall's skill set or well rounded record.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Referencing the batting support is like rating Sobers higher because he bowled 40 overs a match.
And his would have impacted his batting more than Hadlee's would have impacted his bowling.
I just think they're similar and McGrath played in flatter conditions
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
He does from me. He's easily top 10.
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
Here's my top ten pacers in no particular order:
Wasim
Imran
Hadlee
Marshall
Ambrose
Donald
Steyn
Lillee
McGrath
Trueman
Barnes I'm not convinced was a pace bowler. Imo if Bumrah continues along his merry way, he'll definitely break into this group. He may even end up as the goat when all is said and done.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Umm, my top 10
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose
Imran
Lillee
Donald
Holding
Wasim
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
So you have Holding and I have Trueman. Not much difference then. Great minds think alike