Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
After the big three of Hadlee, Marshall and Glenn it's a free for all. Imo, Imran would very much be in the next group around 6 or 7 or so. Definitely top ten. Anything less is just plain wrong.
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Is imran overated as bowler
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sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Marshall>McGrath>Hadlee>Barnes>Murali>Warne>Ambrose>Steyn>Imran>O'Reilly>Akram>Lillee>Trueman>Donald>Garner>Lindwall>Holding>Waqar>Davidson imo.
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
I would rate Steyn alongside them.
Ambrose. Donald. Akram. Imran. Holding. Garner. Lillee. And maybe even Bumrah for now.
Johan
International Coach
Trueman is better than Lillee
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Steyn is my number 4 but with all due respect he didn't have the skillset to be up there with the top tier.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah that's the issue with rating Barnes.
Johan
International Coach
Yeah he has as much of a claim for number one as anyone else, I reckon Marshall/McGrath's case is a bit stronger.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Rated fine, he's behind the top top 5 pacers and and top 2 spinners and rated at the top of the group with Lillee, Donald, the WI duo, Wasim and Lindwall.
No issue with where he's rated.
Yeah, he benefitted massively from the stuff the op mentioned, but everyone knows that already. He still had some good performances away.
ATG bowler.
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kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Really though?
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
All in the same grouping.
Sliferxxxx
State Vice-Captain
I don't consider Barnes a pace bowler and I generally don't rate spinners and seamers together unless pushed.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Imran's record suffered a bit from tailends of a longer career than any other major pacer.
I consider his bowling prime to be from 74 to 88 or 89, which is already longer than the careers of top tier pacers like Lillee, Marshall, Donald and Ambrose.
stats.espncricinfo.com
I consider his bowling prime to be from 74 to 88 or 89, which is already longer than the careers of top tier pacers like Lillee, Marshall, Donald and Ambrose.
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
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Johan
International Coach
He was a pace bowler, Alec Bedser/Fazal Mahmood styled.
Kenneth Viljoen
International Regular
Is this supposed to be a serious post ?
He's one of the greatest cricketers ever lol
He's one of the greatest cricketers ever lol
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
To this day I don’t know what kind of bowler Sydney Barnes actually was
Johan
International Coach
He was a pace bowler, he himself said his style resembled Alec Bedser the most, so slow 120-130kmph but with absolutely insane cutters and swing bowling, which he used to combo and then he had the Garneresque bounce via his height. All the confusion is something Barnes made himself.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
We had plenty of Barnes types in gully cricket. Wanted to be a real pacer but lacked pace then had a few gimmicky deliveries that the same bats always got out for.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Once again another mysterious early 20th century superhuman.