Indian XI vs NZ XI

[Rob Wesley]

Picking a 15 man squad is easier than this though.

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Pant
Kapil
Ashwin
Kumble
Zak
Bumrah


12-15:- Shami, Jadeja, VVS, Dhoni/Engineer

 

[Xix2565]

90s England wickets

Spinners averaged 43.83 at Old Trafford in the 90s.

 

[subshakerz]

Spinners averaged 43.83 at Old Trafford in the 90s.

Quality spinners still did well.

 

[Xix2565]

Quality spinners still did well.

Clearly not well enough.

 

[subshakerz]

Clearly not well enough.

I mean I saw the decade there was the odd dry spinning wicket

 

[Xix2565]

I mean I saw the decade there was the odd dry spinning wicket

It's literally the 2nd worst decade for spinners at that ground, with 2020s being the worst. Actually think please.

 

[subshakerz]

It's literally the 2nd worst decade for spinners at that ground, with 2020s being the worst. Actually think please.

We don't need to debate it, just tell me who wins in the 90s

 

[Xix2565]

We don't need to debate it, just tell me who wins in the 90s

The team which can play more seamers, because spinners are useless.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Picking a 15 man squad is easier than this though.

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Pant
Kapil
Ashwin
Kumble
Zak
Bumrah


12-15:- Shami, Jadeja, VVS, Dhoni/Engineer

Get Merchant in the squad Asap. No ways we are playing Sehwag in SEN over Merchant

 

[subshakerz]

Get Merchant in the squad Asap. No ways we are playing Sehwag in SEN over Merchant

Picking a squad for all conditions

 

[Xix2565]

Picking a squad for all conditions

Says the guy who thinks spinners averaging 40+ is a sign of spin friendly conditions.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Picking a squad for all conditions

Yeah was talking about that. Okay, wait

 

[Thala_0710]

I think if we made separate XIs for India (home and away): Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Kapil and Bumrah are locks for both right?
Does any of the above miss out? Does someone else make both?

 

[subshakerz]

I think if we made separate XIs for India (home and away): Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Kapil and Bumrah are locks for both right?
Does any of the above miss out? Does someone else make both?

Lol why though? That's less fun.

 

[Thala_0710]

Lol why though? That's less fun.

Just a thought provoking question.... Do you still pick Kohli at home? Does Amarnath make the away XI?

 

[subshakerz]

Just a thought provoking question.... Do you still pick Kohli at home? Does Amarnath make the away XI?

I tend to think that unless it's a glaring technical weakness, I will pick the greater cricketer in ATG sides over the one who punched above their weight because the pressure is just so much more.

 

[Thala_0710]

I tend to think that unless it's a glaring technical weakness, I will pick the greater cricketer in ATG sides over the one who punched above their weight because the pressure is just so much more.

It might also be just that the conditions favour someone more right, as in the case with spinners.... Many Indian batsmen have been fabulous players of spin and have great records at home who can be argued over Kohli at home. They aren't great players because of their ability to play overseas on faster and seamier tracks.

 

[capt_Luffy]

29 man squads for all nations (Max possible):

India:
Gavaskar, Sehwag, Merchant, Jaiswal
Tendulkar, Dravid, Kohli*, Hazare, Laxman, Pujara, Viswanath
Pant, Dhoni, Engineer
Jadeja, Kapil, Mankad
Ashwin, Kumble, Chandrashekhar, Bedi, Gupte
Bumrah, Shami, Amar, Nissar, Zaheer, Srinath, Sharma


New Zealand:
Turner, Sutcliffe, Dempster, Wright, Richardson
Williamson, Crowe, Taylor, Donnelly, Fleming*, Jones, Astle
Watling, McCullum, Smith
Cairns, Reid, Philips
Vettori, Bracewell, Patel
Hadlee, Cowie, Wagner, Boult, Bond, Jamieson, Taylor, Southee


Australia:
Trumper, Hayden, Simpson, Lawry
Bradman*, Smith, Border, Ponting, Chappell, Waugh, Harvey, Hill
Gilchrist, Healy, Oldfield
Miller, Noble, MaCartney
Warne, O'Reilly, Lyon, Benaud
McGrath, Lillee, Lindwall, Davidson, Cummins, Spofforth, Johnston


England:
Grace*, Hobbs, Hutton, Sutcliffe
Hammond, Root, Barrington, Compton, May, Ranji, Gower
Knott, Ames, Evans
Botham, Rhodes, Stokes, Greig, Woolley
Laker, Verity
Barnes, Trueman, Anderson, Larwood, Statham, Bedser, Snow, Tate


West Indies:
Greenidge, Hunte, Fredericks, Gayle, Haynes
Richards, Lara, Headley, Weekes, Lloyd, Kanhai, Chanderpaul
Walcott, Dujon, Murray
Sobers, Worrell*, Constantine, Holder
Gibbs, Ramadhin, Valentine
Marshall, Ambrose, Holding, Garner, Walsh, Roberts, Bishop


South Africa:
Richards, Smith, Mitchell, Kirsten
Pollock, Nourse, Amla, Taylor, Cullinan, Bland
De Villiers, Waite, Cameron, De Kock
Kallis, Pollock, Faulkner, Procter, Barlow*, Goddard
Tayfield, Vogler, Maharaj
Steyn, Donald, Rabada, Philander, Adcock, Pollock


Pakistan:
Hanif, Anwar, Majid, Azhar
Miandad, Younis, Inzamam, Yousuf, Abbas, Misbah, Mallik, Azam
Rizwan, Imtiaz, Latiff
Imran*, Mushtaq, Iqbal
Saqlain, Qasim, Qadir, Ahmed, Shah
Akram, Younis, Mahmood, Akhtar, Asif, Nawaz


Sri Lanka:
Jayasuriya, Karunaratne, Dilshan, Atapattu
Jayawardene, Aravinda, Mathews, Ranatunga*, Samaraweera, Tillakratne, Gurusinha, Dhananjay
Sangakkara, Jayawardene, Chandimal, Dickwella
Ratnayake
Muralitharan, Herath, Somachandra, Jayasuriya, Dilruwan
Vaas, Asitha, Lakmal, Malinga, Kumara, Ratnayake, Dilhara


Zimbabwe:
Flower, Masakadza, Campbell, Whittall, Arnott
Houghton*, Goodwin, Ervine, Ballance, Carlislie
Flower, Taibu, Taylor, Chakabva
Williams, Raza, Johnson, Bennett
Strang, Price, Traicos, Cremer
Streak, Muzarabani, Jarvis, Olonga, Mbangwa, Blignaught, Brandes


Bangladesh:
Iqbal, Keyes, Omar, Nafees, Sarkar
Monimul, Mahmudullah, Bashar*, Shanto, Ashraful, Imran, Hossain, Siddique
Rahim, Das, Mashud, Ali
Shakib, Mehedy
Islam, Hasan, Rafique, Jubair
Mortaza, Rahman, Hasan, Rana, Islam, Ahmed


Afghanistan:
Noor, Ibrahim, Ahmadi, Malik
Shahidi, Shah, Afghan*, Jamal, Janat
Gurbaz, Zazai, Shahzad, Ihsanullah, Alikhili
Nabi, Omarzai, Shahidullah
Rashid, Hamza, Mujeeb, Ziar, Zahir, Qais
Zadran, Ahmadzai, Salamkheil, Momand, Fareed, Maqsood


Ireland:
Balbirnie, Porterfield*, Moor, McCollum, Commins
Joyce, O'Brien, Tector, Stirling
Tucker, O'Brien, Wilson, Poynter
Adair, McBrine, Campher, Cameron-Dow, Hand, Woerkom
Dockrell, Humphreys, White
Murtagh, McCarthy, Rankin, Thomson, Young, Hume, Kane

 

[capt_Luffy]

It might also be just that the conditions favour someone more right, as in the case with spinners.... Many Indian batsmen have been fabulous players of spin and have great records at home who can be argued over Kohli at home. They aren't great players because of their ability to play overseas on faster and seamier tracks.

Kohli actually has ATG numbers at Home, somehow. Mostly since he played mostly away post 2020.

 

[Thala_0710]

Kohli actually has ATG numbers at Home, somehow. Mostly since he played mostly away post 2020.

Azhar, Pujara and Vengsarkar do too, arguably better