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India U19 clean sweep Pakistan U19 4-0

adharcric

International Coach
Don't get too excited as we've had exciting Under-19 players in the past not pan out as international stars (ie Patel, Kaif, etc). If we deal with them and let them develop in domestic cricket until they are good enough to "dominate" and not just "survive" at the international level, we'll be well-served. That said, the talent here definitely looks extremely impressive. Among the batsmen, Pujara showed his stuff earlier and Srivastava averaged almost 90 on this tour (tests + odis). Then you've got real good spinners in Chawla, Nadeem, Jadeja and Sharma. All of them can bat as well, with only Nadeem undeserving of the "all-rounder" label so far. IMO, Chawla and Nadeem will be India's next spin-tandem. The seamers are impressive as well, with Yomahesh and Ahmed leading the pack and Ishant Sharma being the standout talent. Sharma's well over 6 feet tall, generates good bounce and bowls in the mid-80s at a young age. Now, this is only the beginning so don't get too worked up about the prospects. The talent is there for sure.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Not taking anything away from the Indians but Pak did not field their strongest team for some reason there was no Jamshed Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Akhter Ayub, Sarfarz Ahmed and a few others who were all part of the WC winning team
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
Xuhaib said:
Not taking anything away from the Indians but Pak did not field their strongest team for some reason there was no Jamshed Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Akhter Ayub, Sarfarz Ahmed and a few others who were all part of the WC winning team
Yea b/c it was a lost cause once India were up 3-0.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Xuhaib said:
Not taking anything away from the Indians but Pak did not field their strongest team for some reason there was no Jamshed Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Akhter Ayub, Sarfarz Ahmed and a few others who were all part of the WC winning team
Are all these players still Under 19? Or does the ageing system work differently, like if you were Under 19 at the start of the year you can play Under 19 matches all that year?
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Perm said:
Are all these players still Under 19? Or does the ageing system work differently, like if you were Under 19 at the start of the year you can play Under 19 matches all that year?
I believe most of them still are.
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
Perm said:
Are all these players still Under 19? Or does the ageing system work differently, like if you were Under 19 at the start of the year you can play Under 19 matches all that year?
Yea maybe thas the reason then.
 

Dravid

International Captain
Anwar Ali is still only 18, so I don't know why he didn't play. Maybe injury? Or politics?
 
Pakistan fielded a team which was picked up amongst the guys who were playing domestic U 19 matches rather than their actual team.And all these guys were playing for the first time as a team.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Xuhaib said:
Not taking anything away from the Indians but Pak did not field their strongest team for some reason there was no Jamshed Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Akhter Ayub, Sarfarz Ahmed and a few others who were all part of the WC winning team
Not having Jamshed and Anwar bowling for Pakistan was the only disappointment in this tour for me. I still think the Indian u-19 side is superior (and stronger than the side fielded in the WC final) to the best Pakistan u-19 side, but watching those two young guns attack the famed Indian batsmen would have been great fun. Stupid selectorial decision for me ... those two weren't named in the CT prelim squad and now they haven't been named to tour a very strong Indian u-19 side.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Sanz said:
Under 19 success means nothing as far as the future is concerned.
I would say it means little (not "nothing") as far a nation's cricketing future is concerned. It certainly shows the kind of talent that's emerging though. With India, u-19 success means less than it would with most teams because India in the past has had a habit of screwing young talent. It seems to be getting better though, with guys like Chawla and VRV getting random exposure only to be sent back to domestic/A-team cricket to develop. These guys haven't been forgotten about like Parthiv Patel was (albeit due to two other strong keepers, and he doesn't seem to have any talent after all, can't even get into double figures these days in domestic cricket), so that's a good sign. India needs to go the Aussie way and let these young talents get 3-4 years in domestic cricket till they start leading the run charts and wicket tallies, instead of bringing them in as soon as they turn in one impressive performance. If they do happen to do that with someone, the selectors have to make sure they don't forget about him just because he was unfairly thrown to the wolves and got owned at a young age.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Shame that Anwar Ali wasn't playing, I've only seen video highlights but he looked very promising at the Under 19 World Cup.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Sanz said:
Under 19 success means nothing as far as the future is concerned.
Absolutely. England won the U19 WC in 97/98. That generation of players should be at their peak now. However, if you look at the team from the final, non have gone on to be 'superstars'. In fact a few would be happy for a County contract next season.

England Team that Won 97.98 U-19 WC

SD Peters, RWT Key, PJ Franks, OA Shah, GP Swann, CP Schofield, GR Haywood, GR Napier, JC Powell, NJ Wilton, RJ Logan.
 
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The Reason why India and Pakistan are so strong is that they blood there players in first class Cricket so early compared to Australia who in about 4 years will see the current crop starting to come through the system
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
For some reason Anwar and Jamshed are being victimised by the selectors they were not picked for the A tour to Aus and now they did not feature in this Indian series.

Coach of the WC winning team Mansoor Rana when asked in an interview about what he thought was the vital factor in Pakistans win said that overall there were better teams then us but we had an opening bowling pair which was miles ahead of other fast bowlers in the competition and infact some experts believed they were already good enough to play at the senior level. Lets hope for Pakistans sake and cricket's sake the career of these two promising bowlers is not ruined by stupid politics.
 

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