Great ODI batsmen

[pakster]

Saeed Anwar - An ODI great. No 2 ways about it 20 centuries, the highest ever ODI score - and that against India IN India. He hit 22 4's and 5 6's in that Innings. One of THE most underated players of the 90's.

Tendulkar- No explanation required. Awesome.

 

[Dasa]

^Inzy seems to be underrated as well... IMO he's a great ODI player.

 

[SJS]

^Inzy seems to be underrated as well... IMO he's a great ODI player.

I would be very reluctant to put a bad runner between wickets and a doubtful fielder (except in the slips which is not always required) in to any all time one day side. For this reason, I am always reluctant in the case of Ganguly too. He too is a great one day batsman.

But when the pool is so great to choose from, surely fielding, running between wickets and ability to rotate the strike has to be a decisive factor. Just an opinion

 

[tooextracool]

Yes, and then for 4 years it wasn't adopted.

After 1996 it came into being as a genuine tactic.

your point is?
ive clearly stated that greatbatch was the pioneer of it, often jayasuriya and ranatunga are given credit for something which they did not invent, they just took martin crowes and greatbatch's strategy to a whole new level.

 

[tooextracool]

Saeed Anwar - An ODI great. No 2 ways about it 20 centuries, the highest ever ODI score - and that against India IN India. He hit 22 4's and 5 6's in that Innings. One of THE most underated players of the 90's.

along with inconsistency and an average of below 40.....

 

[tooextracool]

^Inzy seems to be underrated as well... IMO he's a great ODI player.

another extremely inconsistent player......inzy and anwar both should be looked at as 'what could have been'. their talent was greater than their on-field performances.

 

[biased indian]

so for the first time its the avg that matters.look how many mathces he has won for pak its sould me similar to the count that bevan has done for australia

 

[tooextracool]

so for the first time its the avg that matters.look how many mathces he has won for pak its sould me similar to the count that bevan has done for australia

ive never said that the average doesnt count, ive always said that it shouldnt be looked at solely.
and no both anwar and inzy havent even come close to winning as many games as bevan has.....

 

[biased indian]

MOM Count
tendulkar 50,jayasuriya 35 Richards 31 and desilva,anwar and inzy have all 25+ awards
while bevan has only 12 .that is a low count for a the best player ever so all the matches he had won for then he might have got a lot of support from his mates
so bevn + his team mates is the best ever and that we all know is true

and dont cliam that all those awards by all the playes above where aganist poor teams
atleast richards will not have that many ganist low class teams

 

[tooextracool]

MOM Count
tendulkar 50,jayasuriya 35 Richards 31 and desilva,anwar and inzy have all 25+ awards
while bevan has only 12 .that is a low count for a the best player ever so all the matches he had won for then he might have got a lot of support from his mates
so bevn + his team mates is the best ever and that we all know is true

and dont cliam that all those awards by all the playes above where aganist poor teams
atleast richards will not have that many ganist low class teams

yes its quite conceivable because he batted too low down the order to be the top scorer, unfortunately far more often the top scorer is given the MOM award despite scoring 80 odd and getting out in the 30th over.
i think anyone whos watched bevan knows how many games hes actually won for his country, and the number of games in which hes ended up holding the batting till the end.

 

[Sanz]

And his coming at No. 5/6 didn't really help him in holding his bat either ?? Has Bevan won more than 15 games for Australia in his 10 year career ?

 

[Deja moo]

a common misconception, it was mark greatbatch who pioneered pinch hitting and it was martin crowe who came up with that idea. jayasuriya only took it to a different level.

ive clearly stated that greatbatch was the pioneer of it, often jayasuriya and ranatunga are given credit for something which they did not invent, they just took martin crowes and greatbatch's strategy to a whole new level.

A commoner misconception. It was Kris Srikkanth who pioneered pinch hitting. Agreed he was not a bowler promoted to open, but he was the first to defy the conventional notion of an opener needing to block-block-block .Thge only reason Srikkanth remained in the team for so long was his strike rate. His average was no great shakes.

 

[tooextracool]

And his coming at No. 5/6 didn't really help him in holding his bat either ?? Has Bevan won more than 15 games for Australia in his 10 year career ?

i think its fairly obvious that he has.......
and his coming at 5/6 meant that he rarely had the opportunity to play the big knocks, those are the ones that allow you to get the MOMs. bevans innings unfortunately far more often were 50*(49) chasing 280 with 2 wickets in hand, when mark waugh or someone got 75 odd and got out in the 30th over and many many times his best performances have come on bowler friendly wickets, so the bowlers end up getting the MOM.

 

[tooextracool]

A commoner misconception. It was Kris Srikkanth who pioneered pinch hitting. Agreed he was not a bowler promoted to open, but he was the first to defy the conventional notion of an opener needing to block-block-block .Thge only reason Srikkanth remained in the team for so long was his strike rate. His average was no great shakes.

thats an interesting point actually, ive never thought about srikkanth. however it must be said that both jayasuriya and greatbatch took advantage off the 15 over restrictions as opposed to srikkanth who just tried to smash everything out of the park irrespective of what the field was like.

 

[Deja moo]

thats an interesting point actually, ive never thought about srikkanth. however it must be said that both jayasuriya and greatbatch took advantage off the 15 over restrictions as opposed to srikkanth who just tried to smash everything out of the park irrespective of what the field was like.

I know :b

Srikkanth must have felt the same way , because after he retired, he came up with the idea of the 15 over fielding restrictions .

 

[KennyD]

i think its fairly obvious that he has.......
and his coming at 5/6 meant that he rarely had the opportunity to play the big knocks, those are the ones that allow you to get the MOMs. bevans innings unfortunately far more often were 50*(49) chasing 280 with 2 wickets in hand, when mark waugh or someone got 75 odd and got out in the 30th over and many many times his best performances have come on bowler friendly wickets, so the bowlers end up getting the MOM.

exactly right, hes a master, at judging the innings, assesing what he needs to do, then get his team across the line

 

[Anil]

A commoner misconception. It was Kris Srikkanth who pioneered pinch hitting. Agreed he was not a bowler promoted to open, but he was the first to defy the conventional notion of an opener needing to block-block-block .Thge only reason Srikkanth remained in the team for so long was his strike rate. His average was no great shakes.

no not really....it was true that srikkanth didn't defend much, but his were conventional cricketing strokes, not cultured slogs....and he didn't do it as a part of a personal mission or a team mission, that was the only way he knew how to bat....what greatbatch did, what jayasuriya is doing now is very different than what srikkkanth used to do...although the results(accelerated run rates) are sometimes the same....here, i am not comparing the two and saying one is better....jayasuriya is probably the better batsman, it's just srikkanth was different...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

yes its quite conceivable because he batted too low down the order to be the top scorer, unfortunately far more often the top scorer is given the MOM award despite scoring 80 odd and getting out in the 30th over.
i think anyone whos watched bevan knows how many games hes actually won for his country, and the number of games in which hes ended up holding the batting till the end.

Agreed. In a team like the Australian juggernaut, it's always going to be tough to consistently win the MoM. Bevan has played some extremely crucial innings in a variety of circumstances for his team and is certainly one of the top 3 ODI players of all-time in my mind.

 

[kof98]

Lance Klusener?

 

[Bapu Rao Swami]

Great ODI batsman :

Vivian Richards

Sachin Tendulkar

Michael Bevan

Zaheer Abbas

Gordon Greenidge

Sanath Jayasuriya

Dean Jones

Ricky Ponting

Mark Waugh

Saeed Anwar

Javed Miandad

others like David Gower , Arvinda De Silva, Greg Chappell, Desmond Haynes,Gary Kirsten and Saurav Ganguly were also very good.