Gilchrist given out LBW...

[Zinzan]

From past experience of English fans on here I would say yes.

We shall see

 

[Blaze]

Actually to be fair, just about every Englishman on here doesn't tend to moan about things.

Far more likely to attack the players.

I agree to a certain extent but I did see some moaning in the recent SA series start to creep in and you have been winning a lot lately so naturally there will be less moaning.

I think there will be a fair bit of moaning from certain members in the ashes but we shall wait and see

 

[Slats4ever]

i agree blaze. england like australia win heaps so they don't really have much to moan about!!!

 

[The Maestro]

Ponting

plumb lbw vs Astle twice in half an hour

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Ponting

plumb lbw vs Astle twice in half an hour

The first one was a fair enough decision in my book. It was probably out, but it certainly looked at first glance like it hit him outside the line. With regard to the second one, well it was plumb, but with two runs needed to win and 9 wickets in hand you're never going to get many breaks as the bowling side.

I note that you didn't mention either of the big lbw shouts against Vettori when he was batting, one of which was as plumb as anything you will ever see and the other of which was pretty close.

 

[The Maestro]

hmmmmm

That'll be because I didnt see NZ bat tho

if its true it evens it up.....a little

 

[C_C]

The first one was a fair enough decision in my book. It was probably out, but it certainly looked at first glance like it hit him outside the line. With regard to the second one, well it was plumb, but with two runs needed to win and 9 wickets in hand you're never going to get many breaks as the bowling side.

I note that you didn't mention either of the big lbw shouts against Vettori when he was batting, one of which was as plumb as anything you will ever see and the other of which was pretty close.
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in other words, this was a case of umpiring bias towards Gillchrist..........and YET ANOTHER reason for technology to make this lbw call.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

in other words, this was a case of umpiring bias towards Gillchrist..........and YET ANOTHER reason for technology to make this lbw call.

Ponting, not Gilchrist, and given that Australia won the test two balls later it was hardly significant. And of course it was an error and not bias. And of course calling it "yet another" case of bias towards Australia ignores the earlier decisions which went in favour of New Zealand.

But that's par for the course for those who actually believe in the International Umpiring Conspiricy, eh?

 

[C_C]

Ponting, not Gilchrist, and given that Australia won the test two balls later it was hardly significant. And of course it was an error and not bias.

Me apologies...its the Punter...
Significance is irrelevant.
And it can be termed as a bias....remember...legally,bias and error are interchangable since bias can be intentional or unintentional

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Me apologies...its the Punter...
Significance is irrelevant.
And it can be termed as a bias....remember...legally,bias and error are interchangable since bias can be intentional or unintentional

That's really not the case at all... I don't know what lawyers you have been talking to.

Bias by definition means that it is intentional and systematic, and that it creates an imbalance.

2. (a) A preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.
(b) An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.
3. A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.

This is why accusing an umpire of being biased is accusing said umpire of cheating, and equally why it is so ridiculous to shout "bias!" every time an umpire makes an error.

 

[C_C]

That's really not the case at all... I don't know what lawyers you have been talking to.

Bias by definition means that it is intentional and systematic, and that it creates an imbalance.

according to the US and UK supreme courts, bias is simply presence of a statistical evidence indicating one side has got more breaks than the other side.....whether the bias is due to intentional and unintentional reason is a matter of seperate debate.

LOL its no biggie dude...but i had a convo with a few friends a few night ago who are law student/lawyers and it stuck on my mind