Sanz said:
Clearly you have seen only those innings of Dravid, Dravid was called as Warnie's bunny for some reason, check out his performance against Warnie between 1997 and that 180. Warnie used to get him out at will. I guess you
have not watched that.
certainly warne has caused dravid problems,in fact i was the one who first mentioned that on these forums but dravid has never exactly been his bunny.
if dravid was his bunny, he would not have ended up scoring that 81 or the 180, let alone averaging 45 in the 98 series at home.
Sanz said:
No you think Akhtar is rubbish, I have never said that Akhtar is rubbish and never will. IMO had Akhtar returned to bowl the next day, it would have been difficult for Dravid to score 270 runs despite getting 4 lives, Akhtar is just too good.
do you not understand english?
1) not once have i said that akthar was rubbish, its you who cant accept the fact that he can be rubbish for 5 out of 6 spells and still come out with good figures.
2) how many times do i have to say it.....you are the one that has mentioned that dravid is useless against quality bowlers, it is your argument, not mine. so if its your argument then use your own theories. do not tell me that because someone else thinks that akhtar is rubbish, even though i dont believe that he is, i believe that dravid can only score against useless bowlers.
Sanz said:
Still it is 35+(thanks to 10 wickets in last test), worse than average in my book and it is going to get worse.
oh yes, 10 wickets against SL it does appear as though he is getting worse, and his average against SA at home does go on to prove that he is rubbish isnt he?
in your book bowlers like ashley giles and price are all rubbish too, i would presume.
Sanz said:
You clearly dont understand cricket, Despite Kaneria taking 7 wickets in second innings SL scored 400+ and that proves that there was hardly anything great about his bowling. It was the first day batting performance of SL which cost them the match, even a 5 year old boy can tell you that. Had SL scored another 75-100 runs in the first innings, they would clearly have sealed the series. This is as simple as that, but you will clearly not understand that.
you are really a fool, if everyone else in the attack is so mediocre that they cant pick up any wickets in the 2nd innings, why should kaneria be blamed for it? he took his wickets at less than 17 a piece, certainly did his job. if it werent for kaneria pakistan would probably not even have come close to winning that game, so dont even go on about how their first innings performance cost them.
Sanz said:
Flip-Flop. Kaneria and Farhat are no Kumble. There was no Akhtar
no they are not, but certainly kaneria is capable of turning the ball and picking up wickets, as shown in his recent performance.
Sanz said:
There was a two week gap in between, which would have healed Akhtar's injury quite a bit, No?? Ohr No everything would have gone in your favor, India would have been 300-350 short, Akhtar would have returned to bowl, Kaneria would have bowled like Kumble..really so much certainty in your assumptions amazes me.
there is no certainity, there is certanity in your opinion that india would have won without dravid, when ive clearly stated that it might have gone otherwise.
and 2 weeks rest doesnt exactly heal a back injury, and given that he was still injured when he was playing for durham, it suggests that it wasnt healed at all.
Sanz said:
And that was after couple of weeks, I am sure you would assume that in those two weeks his injury wouldn't have healed a bit. Btw 4/15 against a club side doesn't mean that Akhtar was going to do it in the 4th innings of the test match.
no injuries like those dont heal a bit, and even if it did, playing those games only made it worse than what it was before.
and 4/15 suggests that he was still capable of bowling, and bowling well enough to pick up wickets.
Sanz said:
Collins is around, So is Dillon(didn't they recall him during ICC KO trophy?), Sanford is also around, just becaue he is not picked doesn't mean he is worse than Sami-Akbar-Kaneria etc. Apparently almost all of them avg better than Sami.
this is got to be the post of the year.
first of all theres something called test match cricket, dillon is not in the test match side.
sanford better than sami-akbar- kaneria? have you ever seen sanford bowl? hes quite possibly the worst bowler to ever play as many tests for the WI.
Sanz said:
Kaneria and Sami are still playing because Pakistan do not have anyone better, Umar Gul is injured, So is Shabir Ahmad, Akhtar gets injured in pretty much every series, New bowlers that are coming up are no good either..
oh believe me there are certainly far more options in the bowling department in pakistan than they are in the WI. sami is rubbish, i'll give you that, but even he is better than sanford and cuffy.
and kaneria is certainly a pretty decent bowler, i'll remind you that hes been picked ahead of saqlain and mushtaq.......
Sanz said:
You are a real idiot, who generalizes everything, Antigua is a flat track, but calling pitches like port of spain and Barbados as FT is really height of stupidity. As for your repeated mentioning of our batting failing against those bowlers because India scored 395/7, 339, 218, 102, 296,513, 212, 252 and that is despite some key decisions going against India. I dont see a major batting failure except one inning. Note that Only Laxman,Dravid, Tendulkar & Ganguly from current team were there, India were without Sehwag, Chopra & Patel, India never got a decent start.
did you watch the game in barbados at all?
there was a little movement in the first 2 sessions or so, after that it was extremely flat. which is why the WI ended up getting nearly 400 on that wicket.
and its hardly surprising that you left out jamaica, another flat wicket on which the indian batting lineup failed. and we all know that 212 and 252 are not failures, especially when the other side scores 422.
as far as the indian batting lineup is concerned...yes only 4 out of their 7 players played in that series. and incase you havent realised, parthiv and chopra arent part of the 'current' team, they;ve both been axed.
Sanz said:
It's funny that now are claiming that Pakistani pitches are better than WI pitches, next time you remind us about how India has never won a series outside sub-continent(since they in are supposed to be FTs), I will quote this post of yours and wait for you to give a new spin.
is everything about extremes for you? i mean does a bowler either have to be brilliant or rubbish? a pitch cant be less flat than another wicket without being seamer friendly?
you really know a lot about cricket......
Sanz said:
Only a biased person like you will not call it a wrong decision.
or rather someone who watched the game a lot closer than you did.
Sanz said:
Yeah Right, The commentator at cricinfo must have made this up. this was in the 2nd innings of second test :-
47.1 MacGill to Tendulkar, OUT: pads up to a leg break, Rudi gives it
out, was it missing off, maybe so
India 149/3, Partnership of 70
SR Tendulkar lbw b MacGill 37 (59b 5x4 0x6)
R Dravid 38* (89b 4x4) SCG MacGill 13.1-1-52-2
oh really? that is about the worst piece of garbage i have ever seen. i watched that entire game, and i can assure you that tendulkar was absolutely 100% out. if you had watched that game you would know that tendulkar padded up to a straighter ball from macgill and was caught plum in front. in fact i have a little quote from the cricinfo match report that you might wanna look at.....
"Tendulkar failed to read a straighter one which pitched on middle-and-leg, shouldered arms, and was trapped in front for 37 (149 for 3)."
oh wait heres another quote
" Tendulkar showed brief glimpses of being back to his normal self before padding up to one that pitched in line."
and i'll remind you that match reports are more often than not more accurate than commentaries, because they are usually written by professionals.
Sanz said:
Yes, Yes Yes, Sachin Tendulkar's 24,000 runs in international cricket have all been scored on flat tracks, so are his 70 centuries and 100+ half centuries. He is a flat track bully and most over rated player ever, Haver heard it all, ry something new.
and this is connected to his poor form how?
seriously i've made many posts about how tendulkar is overrated etc etc, but its amazing how you managed to pick out the one post where i actually didnt state that. brilliant. read my post next time, it helps.