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Formula 1

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Fewer wins, poles and fastest laps than his main rival.

Won the title by a tiny amount of points despite his main rival leaving about 100 points on the table due to bad luck.

Worst champion of the 21st century.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
21st century doing a fair bit of heavy lifting in the above post. Only 9 champions in that timeframe, and of them Raikkonen and Button are the only other two to only get one title. I would agree that Rosberg is the weakest of those three, but that's hardly a withering criticism imo



Still miles ahead of JV imo. Same amount of impressive drives post championship
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
It accounts for a third of F1 history to be fair.
Fair point honestly. Goes to show to some extent how a very good driver and team combination can seemingly sustain a level of dominance for longer than has traditionally been the case (14 seperate champions each in the previous two thirds respectively).

I suppose a 2000 F1 car looks far closer to a current F1 car than it does to a 1975 car, but the two are indeed pretty much equidistant
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Fair point honestly. Goes to show to some extent how a very good driver and team combination can seemingly sustain a level of dominance for longer than has traditionally been the case (14 seperate champions each in the previous two thirds respectively).

I suppose a 2000 F1 car looks far closer to a current F1 car than it does to a 1975 car, but the two are indeed pretty much equidistant
I think one difference we've seen recently is the lack of competition within teams. There has usually been one dominant driver and a back up. Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen were all undisputed number 1's at their team. Compare that to Senna/Prost type battles that you never see now.

It is only that Rosberg season that bucked the trend over the last 25 years. Even Button and Kimi weren't really challenged by their team mates.

The McLarens this season are taking us back to a different time with no obvious number 1 emerging as of yet.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I think one difference we've seen recently is the lack of competition within teams. There has usually been one dominant driver and a back up. Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen were all undisputed number 1's at their team. Compare that to Senna/Prost type battles that you never see now.

It is only that Rosberg season that bucked the trend over the last 25 years. Even Button and Kimi weren't really challenged by their team mates.

The McLarens this season are taking us back to a different time with no obvious number 1 emerging as of yet.
I don't think competition within teams has generally been a thing historically either. McLaren having Prost and Senna (and Prost and Lauda previously) is fairly unusual, most teams in history will have had defined number 1 and number 2 drivers - particularly as in the 50s you could take over your team-mate's car if yours suffered a mechanical breakdown.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Great teamwork by Williams. Sad that we had that penalty, the McLaren looked better on the hard could have been a more interesting race. Excellent drive by LeClerc.

Big question for me, why was Lawson’s penalty 10s vs Verstappen’s 5s??
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Given Tsunoda and Gasly's crash, there's probably a degree of mitigation for Max (not that I think he'd have given the place back)
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Great job but not a real F1 pole though. That's like celebrating a T20 hundred like it's a Test ton 😉
C’mon brother give him his due. Anyway he’s still got 2.5 years apparently to surpass Vettel for an actual GP. Could be this weekend if Russell and Max go out too early again.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Regardless of the exact circumstances it certainly was an impressive lap, well done to young Antonelli

Must say what has most impressed me about his season so far is how neat it's been though. Him being capable of being fast doesn't shock me, but considering the experience level I was expecting pretty sharp fluctuations between his best and his worst, and probably a fair bit of shattered carbon fibre as well. Hasn't really been the case so far
 

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