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Fiery

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Wouldn't be exaggerating when I say that pasag's one of the best posters this forum has ever seen. Shame that he feels he has to leave for a bit :(
I feel the same way. I chatted to him briefly, privately on a different website and can't understand why he would want to do that. Matteh suggested I'm to blame. wtf?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Matteh suggested I'm to blame. wtf?
TBH, you are. As am I. As are a good few others. Gelman might not want to name names, that's his prerogative and pretty much the way he operates, and I admire him for 't. But I hope those who read this forum are humble enough to realise that they need to take a long look at themselves and stop being so selfish. I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd prefer to take the "oh, he's not really talking about me" or "oh, he's just being too precious" line, as that's the easiest way out for them, the easiest way to tell themselves that they're not actually in the wrong. There are a few who've been on here long enough for me to know there's not the slightest chance of them changing, there are a few who don't want to change, there are a few whose principal purpose on CW has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to get on with people and trying to make it a nice place for others and far more to do with enjoying themselves by being an idiot. For me, I'd be happiest to be shot of those types. And no, I'm not one of them. And don't anyone dare try and pretend I am. But I am someone who's responsible at least to some degree for the mess CW is to some extent in at present, and for that I need to take responsibility and change. I hope those like me (Fiery being very much one) can do the same.
 

Fiery

Banned
TBH, you are. As am I. As are a good few others. Gelman might not want to name names, that's his prerogative and pretty much the way he operates, and I admire him for 't. But I hope those who read this forum are humble enough to realise that they need to take a long look at themselves and stop being so selfish. I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd prefer to take the "oh, he's not really talking about me" or "oh, he's just being too precious" line, as that's the easiest way out for them, the easiest way to tell themselves that they're not actually in the wrong. There are a few who've been on here long enough for me to know there's not the slightest chance of them changing, there are a few who don't want to change, there are a few whose principal purpose on CW has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to get on with people and trying to make it a nice place for others and far more to do with enjoying themselves by being an idiot. For me, I'd be happiest to be shot of those types. And no, I'm not one of them. And don't anyone dare try and pretend I am. But I am someone who's responsible at least to some degree for the mess CW is to some extent in at present, and for that I need to take responsibility and change. I hope those like me (Fiery being very much one) can do the same.
That's a very good post Richard. Kudos :thumbsup:
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
When did i blame you Fiery? Think you're getting your Matt79s and Mattehs mixed up.
 

Flem274*

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TBH, you are. As am I. As are a good few others. Gelman might not want to name names, that's his prerogative and pretty much the way he operates, and I admire him for 't. But I hope those who read this forum are humble enough to realise that they need to take a long look at themselves and stop being so selfish. I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd prefer to take the "oh, he's not really talking about me" or "oh, he's just being too precious" line, as that's the easiest way out for them, the easiest way to tell themselves that they're not actually in the wrong. There are a few who've been on here long enough for me to know there's not the slightest chance of them changing, there are a few who don't want to change, there are a few whose principal purpose on CW has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to get on with people and trying to make it a nice place for others and far more to do with enjoying themselves by being an idiot. For me, I'd be happiest to be shot of those types. And no, I'm not one of them. And don't anyone dare try and pretend I am. But I am someone who's responsible at least to some degree for the mess CW is to some extent in at present, and for that I need to take responsibility and change. I hope those like me (Fiery being very much one) can do the same.
And there's some (like me) who don't have a bloody clue who you and he know of, except the ones you've named. If you'd been born earlier the KGB could have hired you for their suspicion and fear spreading stuff.:p
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Couldn't give a flying **** if you think I'm immature tbh Matt. What I'm disappointed about is that you had to leave it this long to tell me that I pissed you off that much. I thought we got on quite well tbh
The fact your swearing about it, then admitting it does bother you pretty much gives the lie to the fact that you don't care what I or others think. And that's part of why its so irritating - if you want to be the obnoxious tough guy character, then take what it brings you with good humour instead of getting all precious and suggesting everyone else has the attitude problem. Being happy to give crap but not receive it is never a good look IMO.

Sometimes you're really good value, but there's this "continuously bait people then get huffy when they bite" side you carry on with that you can't seem to get past that makes you a pain in the proverbial a lot of the time. One reason that annoys me is precisely that the rest of the time you are a good contributor.

And tbf, this isn't the first time I've told you - I seem to recall saying pretty much the same thing to you about a month or two after you joined when the "I hate Australians/Shane Watson" crap was leading to similar types of dramas. I generally try to be positive with people, so I generally bite my tongue when someone is annoying me - don't want to contribute to the bickering and sniping if I can avoid it.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Technically, Matt79, it wasn't just after Fiery first joined. It was after his reappearance after a lengthy spell from the forums. IIRC it was just after he became a father for the first time.
 

Fiery

Banned
The fact your swearing about it, then admitting it does bother you pretty much gives the lie to the fact that you don't care what I or others think. And that's part of why its so irritating - if you want to be the obnoxious tough guy character, then take what it brings you with good humour instead of getting all precious and suggesting everyone else has the attitude problem. Being happy to give crap but not receive it is never a good look IMO.

Sometimes you're really good value, but there's this "continuously bait people then get huffy when they bite" side you carry on with that you can't seem to get past that makes you a pain in the proverbial a lot of the time. One reason that annoys me is precisely that the rest of the time you are a good contributor.

And tbf, this isn't the first time I've told you - I seem to recall saying pretty much the same thing to you about a month or two after you joined when the "I hate Australians/Shane Watson" crap was leading to similar types of dramas. I generally try to be positive with people, so I generally bite my tongue when someone is annoying me - don't want to contribute to the bickering and sniping if I can avoid it.
Fair enough mate. Sad I make such a negative impression on you tbh
 

Fiery

Banned
Technically, Matt79, it wasn't just after Fiery first joined. It was after his reappearance after a lengthy spell from the forums. IIRC it was just after he became a father for the first time.
Really? Maybe you should take me with a grain of salt
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Technically, Matt79, it wasn't just after Fiery first joined. It was after his reappearance after a lengthy spell from the forums. IIRC it was just after he became a father for the first time.
Haha, beat me to it.

Funnily enough, I had fairly similar thoughts (to Matt79) at the time of his genuine first-joining. Irritated the hell out of me occasionally, which made it all the more annoying that far more than not of the time he was good-value stuff.

BTW - LOOOOOOOOOOL at Matt79's current sig. But I'll say it again - disappointed that you've taken your Society membership-card from view. :(
 

Fiery

Banned
Haha, beat me to it.

Funnily enough, I had fairly similar thoughts (to Matt79) at the time of his genuine first-joining. Irritated the hell out of me occasionally, which made it all the more annoying that far more than not of the time he was good-value stuff.
Don't make me bring out the rolleye Rich :p
 
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