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** CWXI Tour of India **

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Loony BoB

International Captain
marc71178 said:
What I'm trying to say is that any fringe XI players that didn't go on tour should by definition not be replaced by anyone on tour (since their place was deemed secure enough that they wouldn't need to go onn the tour to prove themselves)
It's very, very rare that I've seen any players, for example Craig McMillan of New Zealand, touring with an an A side when they were struggling for form and about to be dropped. A side tours are for the up and coming, not those who are struggling already. It's no use to have someone struggling for form against the best in the world to have them perform against the second best. That's like saying "this is how good you are - you're an A-side guy/girl." Whereas someone who has proven themselves at A-side level and hasn't played test level is still an unknown at test level. Better to go for someone who might be in test-level form than someone who has recently shown they simply aren't.

You pick sides to win, not to struggle, and if our team struggles to win, then changes may well have to be made, anyway. It's not pleasant for the top guys, but that's the way of the game, especially for a nation with only eight seasons of domestic cricket behind it.
 

PY

International Coach
Loony BoB said:
A side tours are for the up and coming, not those who are struggling already. It's no use to have someone struggling for form against the best in the world to have them perform against the second best. That's like saying "this is how good you are - you're an A-side guy/girl."
Bugger. :huh:
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Loony BoB said:
You pick sides to win, not to struggle, and if our team struggles to win, then changes may well have to be made, anyway. It's not pleasant for the top guys, but that's the way of the game, especially for a nation with only eight seasons of domestic cricket behind it.
I don't think you got my point - there were 3 players from the last CWXI series who moved into the A's - 2 who performed least of all, and one who was a new entry to the full side.

Wholesale changes aren't always the best option (how many successful sides do it in real life?), hence I would imagine it's only those who underperformed who were "on trial" so to speak as regards getting their spot on tour.

Any other changes (ie to the make-up of the bowling line-up) will be more tactically based rather than anything else.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Either way it should be a very good team, my bolters for selection would be Cunningham and Steds. Is this just test or are there ODIs as well???
 

kears_falcon_9

International Debutant
I not sure i think it is ODI aswell. Anyway i dont see why people are saying the XI will change alot just cause some people are doing really well on the 'A' tour. An 'A' tour means that they are palying against the 2nd string players in the world so for starters performances arent as good as they are at test level. For secends the CWXI did responably well against SA especially at the end. I Think the team or atleast the squad will stay fairly similar to the last tour.

p.s this is just my opinion. i have no say in the team at all :)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
chaminda_00 said:
Either way it should be a very good team, my bolters for selection would be Cunningham and Steds. Is this just test or are there ODIs as well???
The problem for Cunningham is that his style of bowling is already well covered for a tour that won't necessarily need so many of that style owing to conditions!

Steds maybe the 3rd spinner after Pickup and Halsey, he's certainly done a good job whenever called upon!
 

Travis_Teh

International Regular
marc71178 said:
The problem for Cunningham is that his style of bowling is already well covered for a tour that won't necessarily need so many of that style owing to conditions!

Steds maybe the 3rd spinner after Pickup and Halsey, he's certainly done a good job whenever called upon!
Favouring the red team players again, huh ? ;)
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
chaminda_00 said:
Either way it should be a very good team, my bolters for selection would be Cunningham and Steds. Is this just test or are there ODIs as well???
marc71178 said:
Steds maybe the 3rd spinner after Pickup and Halsey, he's certainly done a good job whenever called upon!
Oh please! :shy: :shy:
If a 3rd spinner is selected, be it Sudeep, Richards, Reuben, me, whoever, I'm sure they'll do a fine job.

I agree about Cunningham and is mr Young not worth one more go?
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
nah i agree that Steds is more likley to be selected. that said i would say Cunningham is a chance also, depends on what gets decided as the makeu of the squad ;)
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
age_master said:
nah i agree that Steds is more likley to be selected. that said i would say Cunningham is a chance also, depends on what gets decided as the makeu of the squad ;)
Well if they went for a bit of extra batting down the order then Cunningham would be a chance, you would think.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
chaminda_00 said:
Well if they went for a bit of extra batting down the order then Cunningham would be a chance, you would think.
The present tactic already uses 7 batsmen.

I would expect that to be the case again with the 4 bowlers being more than likely 2 seam and 2 spin.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
lord_of_darkness said:
yeh not long to go at all.. warmup matches will start next week..
ahh well. No 'A' team players in the squad at all then. We're still stuck in Pakistan ;)



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