Cricket Web World Cup Ladders

[Barney Rubble]

I hope it doesn't sound like im having a go but


Paul Weekes is nearly 37, Neil has more chance of making the WC squad than him.

No Dmitri Mascerenhas (sp), Afzaal, Sidebottom. Greame Swann, Middlebrook or Napier are much more likley amongst spinners than Panesar.

I'll let you in on a secret, Dave....my England Ladder was written at 3am. I did think I'd miss out a few people - I'd imagine some of that lot will go in come the first review in a couple of months.

And as for Plunkett, the Ladder was written pre-India, so at that point it looked like he was a first-choice.

 

[marc71178]

Didn't Jasotharan name 30 odd Canada players in the other ladders thread?

Yes but Ian Billcliff and 29 John Davisons doesn't count.

 

[marc71178]

I would like a choc-chip and plan chocolate please...

Ireland

1. Ed Joyce
2. Trent Johnston
3. Eoin Morgan
4. Niall O'Brien
5. Andrew White
6. Jeremy Bray
7. Andre Botha
8. Ralph Coetzee
9. Peter Gillespie
10.Paul Mooney
11. David Langford-Smith
12. Kyle McCallan
13. Dominick Joyce
14. Adrian McCoubrey
15. Jason Molins
16. Greg Thompson
17. Conor Armstrong
18. John Mooney
19. William Porterfield
20. Kevin O'Brien
21. Trevor Britton
22. Kenneth Carroll
23. Martinus Fourie
24. Mark Hutchinson
25. Gary Kidd
26. Boyd Rankin
27. David Simpson
28. Roger Whelan
29. Niall McDarby
30. Andrew Poytner


Got to love the emergence of Ireland A

Only 29 there maximum, and I doubt O'Brien will play following last year...

 

[marc71178]

The Scots stand up to be counted:

1. Dougie Brown
2. Ryan Watson
3. John Blain
4. Gavin Hamilton
5. Colin Smith
6. Fraser Watt
7. Craig Wright
8. Paul Hoffmann
9. Douglas Lockhart
10. Cedric English
11. Kyle Coetzer
12. Kasim Farid
13. Gregor Maiden
14. Dewald Nel
15. Sean Weeraratna
16. Ian Stanger
17. Ross Lyons
18. Omer Hussain
19. Grieg Williamson
20. Qasim Shekih
21. Asim Butt
22. Steven Knox
23. Majid Haq
24. Gordon Goudie
25. Stuart Coetzer
26. Robert More
27. Cameron Coles
28. Simon Smith
29. Stewart Bruce
30. James Brinkley

I remember Dizzy posting the Candian Training Sqaud a while ago

Asim Butt is banned (drugs) I believe

 

[chaminda_00]

How can Ed Joyce be on top for Ireland, when he's now an England player?

Only 29 there maximum, and I doubt O'Brien will play following last year...

Ed Joyce is still eligable to play for Ireland until he plays a Test or ODI for England. But if you guys really want you can throw in Irish U19 player at Gary Wilson at 30 and push everyone up

I remember an atricle saying that O'Brien still wants to play for Ireland, but may not play any C&G or InterCont. Matches

Asim Butt is banned (drugs) I believe

I think it was a 6 or 12 month ban, so by the time the World Cup starts he can play again. But by that time i think a few young Scot seamers would have jumped ahead of him, but he would still be in the top 30 players.

 

[chaminda_00]

West Indies E aki Bermuda

1. David Hemp ( currently going through a 100 day quailifcation)
2. Dwayne Leverock
3. Saleem Mukuddem
4. Clay Smith
5. Janerio Tucker
6. Dean Minors
7. Delyone Borden
8. Irvine Romaine
9. Lionel Cann
10. Azeem Pitcher
11. Ryan Steede
12. Chris Foggo
13. Kevin Hurdle
14. Albert Stedde
15. Jekon Edness
16. Jim West
17. Steven Outerbridge
18. Wendell White
19. Dennis Archer
20. Charles Marshall
21. Michael Crane
22. Jacobi Robinson
23. Daniel Morgan
24. Graham Strange
25. Hasan Durham
26. Glen Blakeney
27. Reginald Tucker
28. David Gibbs
29. O Bascome
30. S Kelly

 

[marc71178]

I remember an atricle saying that O'Brien still wants to play for Ireland, but may not play any C&G or InterCont. Matches

That's big of him (!)

 

[superkingdave]

IIRC the rule regarding Joyce is something like you can play in competetions which don't involve other full member countries but if you play in a tournament which involves a full member then you would have to start your qualification period again.

 

[adharcric]

India World Cup Ladder

Here it is .....

1. Rahul Dravid
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Irfan Pathan
4. Yuvraj Singh
5. Mahendra Singh Dhoni
6. Harbhajan Singh
7. Suresh Raina
8. Munaf Patel
9. Ramesh Powar
10. Virender Sehwag
11. S Sreesanth
12. Mohammad Kaif
13. Rudra Pratap Singh
14. Venugopal Rao
15. Vikram Rajvir Singh
16. Robin Uthappa
17. Shikhar Dhawan
18. Piyush Chawla
19. Ashish Nehra
20. Gautam Gambhir
21. Vidyut Sivaramakrishnan
22. Amit Mishra
23. Shib Shankar Paul
24. Sourav Ganguly
25. Wasim Jaffer
26. Rohit Sharma
27. Joginder Sharma
28. Ajit Agarkar
29. VVS Laxman
30. Gagandeep Singh
31. Pravin Kumar
32. Anil Kumble
33. Abhishek Jhunjhunwala
34. Lakshmipathy Balaji
35. Dinesh Karthik
36. Hemang Badani
37. Cheteshwar Pujara
38. Abid Nabi
39. Murali Kartik
40. Zaheer Khan

Now I've realized that making a good ladder is a lot tougher than it seems.
Anyways, feel free to be critical, I can already see some controversial selections myself.

 

[Jamee999]

Here it is .....

1. Ajit Agarkar
2. Rahul Dravid
3. Sachin Tendulkar
4. Irfan Pathan
5. Yuvraj Singh
6. Mahendra Singh Dhoni
7. Harbhajan Singh
8. Suresh Raina
9. Munaf Patel
10. Ramesh Powar
11. Virender Sehwag
12. S Sreesanth
13. Mohammad Kaif
14. Rudra Pratap Singh
15. Venugopal Rao
16. Vikram Rajvir Singh
17. Robin Uthappa
18. Shikhar Dhawan
19. Piyush Chawla
20. Ashish Nehra
21. Gautam Gambhir
22. Vidyut Sivaramakrishnan
23. Amit Mishra
24. Shib Shankar Paul
25. Sourav Ganguly
26. Wasim Jaffer
27. Rohit Sharma
28. Joginder Sharma
29. VVS Laxman
30. Gagandeep Singh
31. Pravin Kumar
32. Anil Kumble
33. Abhishek Jhunjhunwala
34. Lakshmipathy Balaji
35. Dinesh Karthik
36. Hemang Badani
37. Cheteshwar Pujara
38. Abid Nabi
39. Murali Kartik
40. Zaheer Khan

Now I've realized that making a good ladder is a lot tougher than it seems.
Anyways, feel free to be critical, I can already see some controversial selections myself.

Corrected

 

[adharcric]

Corrected

Oh my ... you actually renumbered 27 players just for the sake of AA? Shame on you!

 

[marc71178]

Well done Jamee.

Discussion over.

 

[adharcric]

God .. all my work going to waste because of AA, damn that little ************************.

 

[cricketboy29]

Not that bad, adhar, but i would put Kumble ahead of Chawla, actually. And while I admit Pathan is good, if he keeps losing pace the way he has. Im a bit shaky on him being so high. Apart from these points, I thnk its pretty darn good.

 

[chaminda_00]

i'm still waiting for my cookie Liam!

 

[adharcric]

Not that bad, adhar, but i would put Kumble ahead of Chawla, actually. And while I admit Pathan is good, if he keeps losing pace the way he has. Im a bit shaky on him being so high. Apart from these points, I thnk its pretty darn good.

I just don't think the selectors will revert to a 36-year-old amidst this whole youth movement. Here's my guideline for players over 30 years of age:
a) regular (dravid, tendulkar) -> certain selections, still performing well
b) long-time regulars (kumble, ganguly, laxman) -> decent chance, only after the top young options
c) tried fringe players (sriram, badani, mongia, yadav) -> very slim chance
d) untried fringe players -> forget it

That's why I completely ignored Yadav and more so Bangar. If the selectors weren't looking to youth so much, I would've included Yadav. Instead, I've put Pravin Kumar rather high.

As for Pathan, we should accept that he's a 80 mph bowler who gets loads of wickets with swing, accuracy and variation. In tests he needs to stay at 80 mph instead of straying to the 70s. I'm quite confident he'll be our strike bowler for years to come, at least in ODIs. He needs to work on his test bowling because Munaf and Sreesanth are already looking better than him in that arena.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

i'm still waiting for my cookie Liam!

Take a ninja instead.

 

[adharcric]

Neil, your under-15 pie-chucker Irfan Pathan is now #3 in the ICC ODI rankings.

 

[Neil Pickup]

It's a blip. A rather large, extended blip. One day, someone's going to work out why he can get so many International wickets and fix it.

 

[adharcric]

Every cricketer is a blip. A rather large, extended blip. Only the great ones don't manage to get worked out.

On a serious note ... are you seriously that dismissive of a gifted swing bowler like IKP.
Surely he needs to stop losing pace, but he's shown that even at 80 mph he can be more than potent.