Brad Hogg as a test match option

[Mister Wright]

Wrong'un puts Hogg in Test frame

 

[superkingdave]

yeah it was in the paper today about Gilchrist saying Hogg has a good chance

 

[inbox24]

But MacGill is so much better in tests. I would pick both Hogg and MacGill if the pitch warranted but not Hogg as first choice unless MacGill was woefully out of sorts.

 

[Matt79]

I have heard a few people say that Hogg's variations are a lot harder to pick (specifically the wrong'un) with the white ball, because the contrast between the colours of the seam and the ball aren't as distinctive as with the red ball, so batsmen find him a lot easier to pick in FC cricket.

Yeah, I posted something about Greg Blewett for one saying exactly that based upon his experience of playing/netting against Hogg, during one of the WC matches...

I think at the moment, looking at the contracted players as an indication of what the selectors are thinking, MacGill is the default selection. 40 tests and nearly 200 test wickets mean that he'll probably be given the benefit of the doubt regarding any lack of results in FC. That said, if he's ineffective, then Hogg could well get a go - particularly if Bailey and Cullen fail to impress in their FC outings.

 

[Richard]

Haha.

Hogg > Bailey, Cullen et al... who'd have thought it just a couple of months ago...

 

[Pup Clarke]

Hogg > Bailey, Cullen et al... who'd have thought it just a couple of months ago...

I think most would.

 

[Richard]

Don't think so, TBH. I can't believe anyone was seriously pushing his case after he'd gone wicketless for 5 ODIs in a row, especially given that his selection would be almost bound to be considered "looking back not forward".

What a difference a World Cup makes.

 

[Pup Clarke]

He was still better than Culley/Bailey before the WC IMO.

 

[Richard]

Apart from the fact that it wasn't universally accepted as such, just because he might have been better, doesn't mean he was more favoured for the spot as MacGill's first-reserve.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'd say it would've nearly been universal, considering neither Bailey or Cullen are proven performers in domestic circles yet Hogg had won a WC and taken plenty of ODI wickets.

 

[Josh]

I've always rated Hogg quite highly as a bowler, and a lot of people looked at me as if I were an idiot. I'm demanding apologies from most of them.

 

[Mister Wright]

Apart from the fact that it wasn't universally accepted as such, just because he might have been better, doesn't mean he was more favoured for the spot as MacGill's first-reserve.

Yeah, but if Warne & Macgill had of been injured, it may have been a different story. The selectors would have been wary to use either of Cullen, Bailey, Hauritz, Casson, White, Heal, Doran or any other spinner in Australia you could think of in a test match as a lone spinner. They more likely would have gone with an extra paceman, if not call on Hogg.

In conjunction with Warne or MacGill (particularly Warne) is another story as shown in Bangladesh when Warne, MacGill and Cullen were used.

 

[Richard]

Haha, Hauritz, Casson, White and Heal.

I'm probably speaking too much as a non-Aussie in this thread, TBH.

 

[Mister Wright]

Haha, Hauritz, Casson, White and Heal.

I'm probably speaking too much as a non-Aussie in this thread, TBH.

All played more first class cricket than Hogg last season.

 

[Richard]

Yeah, I know. But the notion that any are currently that good is a pretty bad one.

 

[Mister Wright]

Yeah, I know. But the notion that any are currently that good is a pretty bad one.

I wasn't the one saying any of them were good, you were the one saying those guys would get a spot in the test side ahead of Hogg.

 

[Prince EWS]

All played more first class cricket than Hogg last season.

White played mainly as a batsman though - if he couldn't bat, even McGain would have been selected in front of him at Victoria IMO. Hogg didn't play much first class cricket because he was with the Australian team for a lot of the season. I don't want Hogg to ever see another test match by any stretch of the imagination, but the fact that Hauritz, Casson and White saw more FC than him is slightly misleading...

 

[Richard]

I wasn't the one saying any of them were good, you were the one saying those guys would get a spot in the test side ahead of Hogg.

I wasn't extending to Casson and Heal, though.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I'd say it would've nearly been universal, considering neither Bailey or Cullen are proven performers in domestic circles yet Hogg had won a WC and taken plenty of ODI wickets.

Agreed. Short term option, Hogg was more likely to be picked. Especially if the series was on the line, in a dead rubber - maybe not.

 

[pasag]

I've always rated Hogg quite highly as a bowler, and a lot of people looked at me as if I were an idiot. I'm demanding apologies from most of them.

Yeah same, he's always been massively underrated in ODI's until this WC where he's finally got the accolades he deserves.