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Botham vs. Imran as an allrounder in tests
- Thread starter Days of Grace
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Swervy
International Captain
laugh away....living on past glories doesnt allow you to take 8 wickets in an innings vs the best team in the world does it
you arent exactly the person I would run to if I needed an informed judgement on a player, so lets just leave it at that.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Those past glories were being able to do such things (and, more significantly, the lesser and more regular things) often rather than just once in a blue moon.
Swervy
International Captain
just because he hit the highs bowlers have rarely hit in the first 5 years but didnt so much after that is more a reflection of how good he was.
In the time frame you are talking about, he was still probably Englands go to bowler in many situations, and was still a lot better than those stats suggest.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
All well and good ain't it...
1, being the best of a bad bunch is no excuse
2, stats not doing justice can be said any time and about any number of people
3, he was sensationally brilliant for quite a time... then he became decidedly on the poor side of average. Something you seem to treat as an insult to humanity, and something that no-one must ever be allowed to accept happened. If someone was at some time brilliant, you don't seem comfortable with the idea that they were ever (be it before or after) rubbish. I just don't get it.
1, being the best of a bad bunch is no excuse
2, stats not doing justice can be said any time and about any number of people
3, he was sensationally brilliant for quite a time... then he became decidedly on the poor side of average. Something you seem to treat as an insult to humanity, and something that no-one must ever be allowed to accept happened. If someone was at some time brilliant, you don't seem comfortable with the idea that they were ever (be it before or after) rubbish. I just don't get it.