Border-Gavaskar Trophy all time XI

[harsh.ag]

You still have a day job, Daemon? Don't you wanna make bucketloads of money and become the grand ambassador of your local chapter

 

[Daemon]

Make no mistake I would sell you all homeopathy medicine at $1000 a pop without a second thought if I could

 

[Shri]

i chose gilly because he was the only aus captain in the last million years to win a series in india

of course, it was against an injured tennis elbow tendulkar in the side who also missed two tests so the series shouldn't count but we'll allow it to prevent some tears

 

[Coronis]

Yet to come to terms with India's series victory down under last time around ?

Gilly doesn't average half as much as Pant in India-Australia series. Why should I pick him ? Because he averages 50 against other teams put together ?

What are the other choices ? Mongia, Healy(who played only one series), Paine, Dighe, MSK Prasad ?

But Pant is a good choice yes?

 

[_00_deathscar]

But Pant is a good choice yes?

At least he performed...

 

[_00_deathscar]

i chose gilly because he was the only aus captain in the last million years to win a series in india

of course, it was against an injured tennis elbow tendulkar in the side who also missed two tests so the series shouldn't count but we'll allow it to prevent some tears

Ah yes, the Shane Warne excuse. I think we should discount it just to know what it feels like to be on the other side.

 

[Burgey]

At least he performed...

With the bat in one knock, a la Gilchrist in 2001. With the gloves, not so much. He's a poor gloveman by any objective measure.

 

[_00_deathscar]

With the bat in one knock, a la Gilchrist in 2001. With the gloves, not so much. He's a poor gloveman by any objective measure.

Did Healy even perform in one knock? Pant has more runs in 4 matches than Healy has in 9 vs India.
Also, in that case, he should retire right now lest his average drop because apparently you get penalised for that.

(Not going to argue re: the gloveman part though - he's ****).

 

[Coronis]

I’d rather have a great gloveman who’s a **** bat than the other way around but that’s just me.

 

[Starfighter]

Ah yes, the Shane Warne excuse. I think we should discount it just to know what it feels like to be on the other side.

At least Warne had the excuse of not having a choice of ball, nobody forced Tendulkar to use that 3 lb plus railway sleeper he carried back then.

 

[honestbharani]

At least Warne had the excuse of not having a choice of ball, nobody forced Tendulkar to use that 3 lb plus railway sleeper he carried back then.

Spoken like a fan who had nightmares caused by that bat, a la Warney.

FTR, I hate those heavy bats too. Lara's MRF Wizard

 

[Starfighter]

Spoken like a fan who had nightmares caused by that bat, a la Warney.

Sensitive again. The only BG series I saw him in was 2011/12. Needless to say, he didn't cause too many nightmares. He'd slimmed his bat down to 2 lb 12 oz by then anyway. Fact is his preference for ultra heavy did cause that injury.

 

[honestbharani]

Sensitive again.

At least the SC has a sense of "humour"...

 

[Burgey]

Did Healy even perform in one knock? Pant has more runs in 4 matches than Healy has in 9 vs India.
Also, in that case, he should retire right now lest his average drop because apparently you get penalised for that.

(Not going to argue re: the gloveman part though - he's ****).

What's Healy got to do with a comparison between Gilchrist and Pant ffs, which was the original discussion? Or even vs Dhoni for that matter. you'd have all three over Pant in a heartbeat wouldn't you?

And really, if you're (quite rightly) conceding he's rubbish with the gloves, then what possible role does he have in a proposed all-time XI as a wicketkeeper, albeit one of short compass like this?

"****, sorry I dropped Laxman/ Hayden/ Smith on three and they made a double. Here, look at my shiny 40 odd" isn't exactly the stuff of legend.

 

[Burgey]

At least the SC has a sense of "humour"...

Probably more of a genuine debate to be had about that than Pant > Gilchrist tbh.

The latter is Atherton > Hayden levels of bad.

 

[honestbharani]

I am here with my popcorn.. That is all.

 

[h_hurricane]

Pant in one series in Australia has scored more runs than what Gilchrist put together in 2 trips to india in 2001 and 2004.

350 runs is a great series aggregate on a foreign trip let alone doing it against a fine quartet(Starc, Hazlewood,Cummins and Lyon). That is a better quartet than anything Gilchrist faced against India.

On his keeping, note that he took 20 catches in the series. Can some one bring up how many catches he dropped in this series ? Yes, he has been poor with the gloves for most of last 2 years but that is a non factor in this context right ?

Many are being way too sensitive about the Pant pick. Nobody is saying he is a better glovesman or batsman than Glichrist overall ffs.

 

[h_hurricane]

I’d rather have a great gloveman who’s a **** bat than the other way around but that’s just me.

I would do the same as well. Except that, I wouldn't pick Gilchrist in india-australia team based on how he did in SA, England, NZ or SL.

 

[Shri]

Sensitive again. The only BG series I saw him in was 2011/12. Needless to say, he didn't cause too many nightmares. He'd slimmed his bat down to 2 lb 12 oz by then anyway. Fact is his preference for ultra heavy did cause that injury.

yeah and shane bitch warn's preference for his mum's vitamin pills caused him to miss a year

what is your point

 

[h_hurricane]

yeah and shane bitch warn's preference for his mum's vitamin pills caused him to miss a year

what is your point

Warne's absence is the reason Stephen thinks Australia were robbed of the series victory in 2003-04.