howardj
International Coach
They decided to actually do a serious story.What happened?
They decided to actually do a serious story.What happened?
What happened?
As Howard said, they sent one of their reporters to India to 'investigate' illegal gambling there (well obviously all gambling is illegal there) and said how dangerous was and interviewed some random bookie who said he had 'no doubt' the mafia where behind this (Woolmer's death) etc.They decided to actually do a serious story.
Haha dire. I've recently seen one side of the story first hand for an ACA piece. The side I heard first hand was actually the side ACA was supporting, you know how they always pick a side, and it was a bloody joke. Just so pathetic.As Howard said, they sent one of their reporters to India to 'investigate' illegal gambling there (well obviously all gambling is illegal there) and said how dangerous was and interviewed some random bookie who said he had 'no doubt' the mafia where behind this (Woolmer's death) etc.
At least the bloody Corby's or the ratings war was being done at that time.
indeed yes people might stop going on about match fixing!!!You just hope that they have got it right this time and there are no more twists to come. If one is to play devil's advocate for a minute it suits the ICC that he was not murdered becuase people will stop talking about matchfixing. Another point - was the **** up due to the fact that police werr under pressure from fans, press etc to give us a decision and they do say "do things in haste, repent at leisure"
Well Scotland Yard is the body that really pronounced that he was not murdered. I doubt if ICC have that much influence there .You just hope that they have got it right this time and there are no more twists to come. If one is to play devil's advocate for a minute it suits the ICC that he was not murdered becuase people will stop talking about matchfixing. Another point - was the **** up due to the fact that police werr under pressure from fans, press etc to give us a decision and they do say "do things in haste, repent at leisure"
Nothing new there ... it's the media again.The media who played up the anti-Pakistan angle, that Woolmer was writing a book about match fixing, etc. are real nasties in the piece. Mark Shields is seeking out Bob's wife to apologise; anyone want to take a punt how many media outlet bosses will follow suit?
Corey! Where have you been, champ?From memory, Mark Shield said that the case was being investigated as a murder inquiry, not that Woolmer had been murdered which really only changes timelines but is a critical difference; a coroner's investigaton is needed before any cause of death is finalised, they take sometimes two years or more and even then, unless a suicide often they're somewhat unsure.
Cause of death isn't an exact science; a bloke who asphixiated with a broken bone in his neck, the temptation to at least suggest it was a murder would have been there which, I would suggest, is what the pathologist would have done. I also think the media kerfuffle and public outrage going on right now would have been completely dwarfed by what would have been the case had Mark Shields and the Yard said nothing until now in a wait-and-see approach. Hard to win in his situation....
Certainly there's no way he should lose his job. He was just investigating the leads and the pathologist's report would have been part of what direted the investigation. The media who played up the anti-Pakistan angle, that Woolmer was writing a book about match fixing, etc. are real nasties in the piece. Mark Shields is seeking out Bob's wife to apologise; anyone want to take a punt how many media outlet bosses will follow suit?
Hopefully, very.How utterly ridiculous do all those cricket journalists and many punters on here look, who put forward the absolutely made-up theory that he was murdered by match fixers! "Oh he just had to be as he was the coach of Pakistan".
Indeed, its an absolute disgrace. Good post.Following the report of the news that Bob wasn't actually murdered, the Sky commentator states:
'Its says something about the state of Pakistan cricket that the accusations against them were made'
How on earth such a comment comes unchallenged is beyond me. It says something of the perception of Pakistan in world media, but says more about the cynical judgement for all things Pakistani and the racism that underpins international news networks...
Somehoworother missed this on my first perusal of the thread, but... yes, what Jono said. A disgrace. I hope someone spotted that and took whoever it was to task (quietly, if so).Following the report of the news that Bob wasn't actually murdered, the Sky commentator states:
'Its says something about the state of Pakistan cricket that the accusations against them were made'
How on earth such a comment comes unchallenged is beyond me. It says something of the perception of Pakistan in world media, but says more about the cynical judgement for all things Pakistani and the racism that underpins international news networks...
...or that three other leading medical experts are wrong?Basically:
what is more likely? 2 highly trained medical experts getting things wildly wrong, or guys with millions to lose making small pay-offs to hush things up?
OPEN YOUR EYES!