tooextracool said:
yet they all had successful domestic records! another contradiction here?
Newport's substandardness can of course be judged with certainty on 64 overs against very strong Australian batting-line-ups on flat wickets.
And Pringle was a disappointment in his international career, I don't think anyone would say anything otherwise.
However, he's still very much in a minority. If you want to go back that far there are lots more players you can add to the trend of domestic-success-international-success (Gooch, Gatting, Smith, Robinson, Broad, Lamb, to name a few).
strange that....derek pringle had a similar domestic record and he went on to achieve greatness didnt he?
And of course the fact that Pringle averaged a whole 5-and-three-quarter runs lower than Botham means his record is similar.
And the fact that Botham's record took a rather large turn for the worse in his later years as he played on too long is irrelevant too?
yes with a brilliant first class average of 36.21 and limited overs record of 30. incidentally rikki clarke also averages 36 in first class cricket and of course you predicted failure for him didnt you?
And of course his comparative failure (32 against Bangladesh isn't exactly much to shout about) is soooo conclusive, especially given that it was up at 40 before the final innings in which he had to sacrifice his wicket for quick runs.
Just because almost everyone on here doesn't like him and he's nothing in terms of a one-day player, plus the fact he's having an ordinary season this term doesn't mean he's automatically not Test-class.